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re: I would like to have a rational conversation with the Admins regarding this.

Posted on 5/11/15 at 6:00 pm to
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 6:00 pm to
Well then it won't be a problem for you to leave the thread and let the grown ups discuss how to improve the rant.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 6:02 pm to
So if I stick around I'm trolling? Is that the new standard? I've been here longer than you, does my opinion not hold any weight? Or are you just looking for agreeable posters?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 6:05 pm to
And since you're so grown up why are you the one receiving PMs? I've had exactly one in 12 years. How many times have you been banned and gotten PMs? Please
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55303 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 6:07 pm to
You and I have been banned 1 time each



Stick around and offer some real input......
Or just keep on trolling...whatever
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 6:11 pm to
Yep and I have drastically more posts than you and have been posting since TDs inception.

How many PMs have you gotten? Round to the nearest whole number.

And to contribute to your thread, the SECr just needs an admin that posts more often. Someone who is here to see how things go down and can remain unbiased when need be.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55303 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

And to contribute to your thread, the SECr just needs an admin that posts more often. Someone who is here to see how things go down and can remain unbiased when need be.




You did it thanks for actually contributing

But why did you take so many posts to get to it

And I've had only 1 pm before getting the ban.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 6:34 pm to
Ratio of posts:bans/PMs does not bode well for you when comparing yourself to me. I pride myself on quality posts, threads, as well as diffusing tension amongst other posters.

Consider browsing my posting history, get a general feel for how I operate, and then come back and try again.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55303 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 6:40 pm to
I didn't compare myself to you, you brought it up. You asked the question. You trolled for a half dozen posts and then finally when asked to actually respond to the OP, you did.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 6:44 pm to
God you are just sucking the fun out of everything today. Maybe tomorrow.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55303 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 6:52 pm to
I'm not nagging at you, you stopped by this thread voluntarily. You are a huge troll (and I don't mean that negatively, think "instigator")and you know it, but I've said it before in this thread, you and posters like you (intelligent, good mannered and civil) are not the problem. It is the group that reverts to flinging poo whenever their point can't be made and their lack of wisdom is revealed that chase off the good posters.

Intelligent banter and give and take good natured ribbing should be a welcome part of the rant.

And you can't make me mad at you, like I said before, I like you
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 7:00 pm to
I agree with all of that. And appreciate the compliments (?)

Yes, the flaming is a huge problem on this board. To be fair though, instigating is meant to get that out of someone. To see them resort to their worst. So when certain posters do that, they too shoulder some of the blame. It's like the older brother getting the little brother to cuss loud enough for mom to hear.

And I post on a lot of boards and have a lot of posts. I don't instigate in the manner that you think I do

And you're cool too homie
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55303 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 7:15 pm to
But I know you, don't act like I don't. You're a "drive by" instigator

And you have a valid point about the instigators sharing some of the blame for the flame out of others. But you can't get rid of the fun give and take, and the poo flingers are always responsible for escalations. So what to do? I think we agree, a mod should not just react to a RA, they should take a quick look at the situation to see who is really truly the one making the thread a shite show.


Time to do the dishes but as always, intellectually stimulating

Until the next time



Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 7:55 pm to
Not sure what this thread has devolved into, but just dropped in to say I've always felt there should be a text box to explain your RA.
Often times a series of posts needs to RA'd or a certain poster needs to be RA'd due to a pattern in their posting, but you know the admin is only going to read the one post that's been specifically RA'd and out of context or without knowledge of prior situations the one post doesn't look like much to the admin.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55303 posts
Posted on 5/11/15 at 8:08 pm to
quote:

Not sure what this thread has devolved into, but just dropped in to say I've always felt there should be a text box to explain your RA. Often times a series of posts needs to RA'd or a certain poster needs to be RA'd due to a pattern in their posting, but you know the admin is only going to read the one post that's been specifically RA'd and out of context or without knowledge of prior situations the one post doesn't look like much to the admin.







Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18741 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 7:46 am to
quote:

Or just keep on trolling...whatever
You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

So the first thing needed is a consensus on the definition of trolling. What cas4t is doing is most certainly not trolling. A differing opinion is not a troll.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55303 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:10 am to
quote:

What cas4t is doing is most certainly not trolling



He went back and edited his posts

Now they look like thoughtful responses
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 8:12 am
Posted by The Nino
Member since Jan 2010
21521 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:28 am to
Ice can see the unedited posts fyi
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55303 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:38 am to
I understood that.

It wasn't until Cas4t's 7th post in this thread that he actually addressed or comments towards the the OP. Before that he was simply seeking a response from me.



So what is trolling?

Posting in an effort to elicit an angry or uncontrolled response? As Cas4t suggests?

Posting in a thread with purposeful intention of derailing that thread?

This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 8:41 am
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70909 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:16 am to
I have literally not edited one post to make it seem any different. If any post is edited, it's because I misspelled something. I told you I wasn't trolling.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55303 posts
Posted on 5/12/15 at 10:23 am to
I agree about the edit, I went back and looked at your initial response after responding to ice.

Your posts were not seeking to address the OP you were clearly seeking a response from me instead, so what is that if not trolling? Please answer that? You even admitted this in your 7th post.

I don't want this thread to get off track. Ice stopping by is nice, at least the thread and valuable comments from other posters were read.
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