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Frank's holds himself accountable for the loss against aTm...

Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:07 am
Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:07 am
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i don't know why, but this quote stood out to me...

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“It’s just one of those things. I mean, I can’t see the whole field,” Franks said. “Just one of the things I missed.”


i'm in no way blaming this kid for the loss. i get that he's a freshman, but there doesn't seem to be any progression in his development. i believe that's on the coaches.
Posted by atlgator
Jacksonville, Atlanta, Gainesville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:13 am to
I agree. On the coaches to teach him progressions and develop him in his 18 months on campus, but it's on Franks to see one of the several open wide receivers he had all game.

The coaches haven't developed him to this point, but the playcalling this week put him in position to be successful. He didn't take advantage of it. It is what it is. Gotta find a way to develop him during the bye week and see progress during the second half of the season. If it doesn't happen, we better have some new assistants. If it doesn't happen next year, we will have a new head coach.
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:20 am to
Frank's is a typical Freshman QB, not an exceptional one that had the ability to hit the ground running. He was not ready to play this year and was forced into duty anyway. His upside is high, we will have to live with his on the job training.
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 10:25 am to
He had a bad game. Coach should have had his back tho.
This post was edited on 10/16/17 at 10:26 am
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 10:58 am to
quote:

i'm in no way blaming this kid for the loss. i get that he's a freshman, but there doesn't seem to be any progression in his development. i believe that's on the coaches.



''You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.''

I mean, physically, you can't get on the field, grab his head and yank it around to make him see. The coaches have already made the offense as simple as they could for him, and they're trying new things. We asked them to, beacuse we knew after last week that Franks isn't going to lead us down the field, first down after first down.

Again, I think the biggest fault is that they haevn't given Zaire a fair shake. He's a 5th year senior, and by God if he can't see the field then we're just fricked at QB this year and we need to start running some quarterback keeper reads 'n' shite.

frick, maybe even give it to Toney as QB, see what he can do. I mean...

We're not going to the Playoffs, I don't know why this staff doesn't have the mentality to just go wild.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 11:00 am to
Good for him. He shows leadership qualities. Like going to sing with the band after a loss despite everyone else going to the tunnel. Takes the blame and shoulders it. He has a lot of issues as a QB, but he is more of a leader than a HC who thinks his shite doesn't sink.
Posted by bengalbait
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 11:20 am to
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I think the biggest fault is that they haevn't given Zaire a fair shake.


Did you see his pathetic appearance in the Michigan game? He looked terrible. He strikes me as the kind of guy that runs his mouth a lot and then can't back it up. I've got to think the coaches see this in practice and that's why he hasn't been given another shot.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 11:32 am to
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id you see his pathetic appearance in the Michigan game? He looked terrible. He strikes me as the kind of guy that runs his mouth a lot and then can't back it up. I've got to think the coaches see this in practice and that's why he hasn't been given another shot.


He might be, but...

He came into the game against Michigan late, the offensive line was getting chewed up and was put into a losing situation.

What do we have to lose? The East? We're already fricked there even if we beat Georgia.

I'd love to give Franks a chance, experience, whatever he needs to be successful -- but he's tried.

LSU isn't a top ten defense -- Michigan has one.

A&M isn't top ten.

I guess we just have to stick with Franks, and frick I hope these two weeks gets him ready for Georgia, but he's been panicking so much.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12506 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 12:40 pm to
If we have nothing to play for why put a 5th year Senoir out there at QB rather then the most talented QB on the roster who is a red shirt freshmen . You stick up for the coaches but your wanting to put athletes at QB that we know are not very good . You put athletes at QB when your coaching sucks and your trying to hide it . Giving Toney more plays at wildcat could take some pressure off Franks but starting him or Zaire would just show Mac is scared of losing his job this year.

If we start another QB it should be One of the freshmen. I am fine with Zaire starting so you guys can see that Franks is not the real problem. I would take Franks as the starter next year with a new head coach over Del Rio with Mac .
This post was edited on 10/16/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:03 pm to
quote:

If we have nothing to play for why put a 5th year Senoir out there at QB rather then the most talented QB on the roster who is a red shirt freshmen .


It's not about that. Franks has more natural talent than Del Rio, but Del Rio happens to be more efficient with the offense (especially on 3rd and 4th down).

We would have lost to Kentucky had he not changed quarterbacks.

We might have had a closer game if we had stuck with Del Rio against Vanderbilt (this one I don't know, but maybe).

It's about scheming. You guys talk shite about Zaire because he was bad against Michigan but want me to suddenly accept Franks when he's had four bad games this year.

Michigan: Real fricking bad. Two unforced fumbles,

Tennessee: A great game, did everything he needed to do minus one interception that wasn't his fault.

Kentucky: We go 0 - 7 on third down gets yanked has 45 yards in 3 quarters if you take away his ''uncovered'' touchdown, Del Rio comes in and goes 5 - 7 and throws for 68 yards in one quarter.

Vandy: Gets lucky, has some awful throws that don't get picked off that should have been twice, and especially not end up in a deflection for a reception.

LSU: Looks completely lost, 100 yards passing in four quarters even though we're moving the ball running.

A&M: Misses receivers all over the field, cracks under pressure, throws two interceptions that should have never been thrown.

So, yeah, Zaire had one bad game against a top ten defense -- Franks has had multiple bad games against mediocre teams and his 3rd down percentage has been abysmal.

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but starting him or Zaire would just show Mac is scared of losing his job this year.



His job is to frickin' win, man. Whoever gives him the best opportunity to do so is who we should go with. This is college ball, not a place for pussies. Franks has had *ample* opportunity to prove himself week in and week out.

I'm saying give the dude a shot, one or two drives. If they stall out, go 3 and out, Franks should go back in. Let us see it, though.
Posted by UFMatt
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/16/17 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

If we have nothing to play for why put a 5th year Senoir out there at QB rather then the most talented QB on the roster who is a red shirt freshmen .


To play Zaire at this point would be a terrible waste of time. If he was good enough to play, he would have started from the first game. Now, if we are going to play another QB it should be one that has the potential to help us in the future.
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12506 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 6:00 pm to
Well Del Rio was losing to Vandy when he was injured so he could have lost us the Vandy game because he was not very good. Del Rio made the Vandy defense look good while UGA , Bama and Ole Miss scored at will on them . Even Franks did well against them.


Starting Zaire the rest of the season would mean we dont have a QB on the roster worth playing . That means the staff would be relying on a freshmen next year or another transfer. That's enough to fire Mac this year . He can't put a offense on the field in 3 years so why give him another year to try when he would need to get a miracle QB . Franks needs to start the rest of the season unless another freshmen or corral start .
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 6:02 pm to
The agenda is to blame coaching, well...as I posted in August, if Franks starts we will lose some games and you guys better be ready for it. Most of you wanted Franks over LDR except Straw and me. Now you guys aren't accepting the fact that Franks isn't/wasn't ready.

I am not in the Zaire camp...he didn't exactly impress me with accurate passes. I am in the camp of starting either Jake Allen or Trask if he can play though. Franks makes 1 good play and two bad plays....he just cannot move the fricking chains.

Teams are stacking the line and forcing us to throw..so the QB HAS to be to convert and move chains to make 1) field position on our side 2) rest the defense 3) score points.

Malik Davis and Perine are great runners, but against stacked lines we will get tackled for losses or 1 yd gains. We have to play with a lead and get good field position to beat UGA. BTW Straw the east is still open for us...sure, not easy, but if we beat UGA and then AU beats UGA at home...we could win the east. And trust me UGA is winnable. LSU was not expected to beat top ten ranked AU and the list of underdogs winning is long indeed my friend.

I'm hoping Franks will realize that he has to be much much better at looking at his options before checking down so quickly. He needs to learn to stand in the pocket and take a hit.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 9:35 pm to
Oh, and I don't recall Mac throwing Franks or anyone under the bus...but that doesnt fit the agenda I guess.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6421 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 10:23 pm to
Florida Gators head coach Jim McElwain did not mince words Saturday night after his team was held scoreless in the fourth quarter as the Texas A&M Aggies scored nine unanswered points to pick up a 19-17 win at Ben Hill Griffin Stadium in Gainesville, Florida.

“The plan is good. The execution piece needs to get better,” McElwain said of Florida’s offense when asked why the Gators failed to convert on third down and extend drives in the second half.

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"It hurt,” McElwain said following his team’s 19-17 loss to Texas A&M Saturday in the Swamp. “Our guys played hard. Didn't make a couple plays down the stretch that we needed to to come out on the right side of the scoreboard.

"We maybe got a little jumpy in there at times.”



So who is Mac blaming??? He did the same shite after Michigan game where he blamed the offensive line that was supposed to be a strength this year. Yet he won't ever take responsibility for his poor coaching. Not challenging a crucial 3rd down spot, not trying for points near the end of the half and admitting that he didn't know he had a timeout left. Not running the ball in the 3rd quarter, throwing 3 straight passes when TAM couldn't stop the run.

Only a poor craftsman blames his tools.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

“Our guys played hard. Didn't make a couple plays down the stretch that we needed to to come out on the right side of the scoreboard.


He's not lying.

You can hate Mac and thats fine, but to say things like this makes you look really foolish. As a Coach, all you can do is put those kids in position to have success. If they miss an open throw and catch it is what it is. We all have eyes, and we all saw the wrs running open many times in the game
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 10/16/17 at 11:58 pm to
The fact that Franks has taken responsibility for the offensive problems shows he's more of a leader than his HC. IT sucks this kid has zero coaching to help him succeed.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:03 am to
quote:

"I tell you, I don’t think we did a great job in the film-study piece with what our defensive staff gave our guys,” McElwain said. “Some of the clues immediately based on formation. I’m not sure we did a great job communicating that… and they took advantage of it. They did a really good job of that and we’re going to have to get that cleaned up this week.”

Here you go reel.
Wtf is up with the pieces shite?

LINK /

Why doesn't he call out his side? Especially Nuss and Nord?
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:07 am to
We weren't winning with ldr at QB either. Its the fricking coaching. This team is average to terrible in every phase of the game. STs and the offense are in the 100s, the defense is #41 and there's zero difference in how this team LOOKS from year 1 to year 3 and 5 QBs later.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 10/17/17 at 12:40 am to
quote:

We weren't winning with ldr at QB either


What game did he play that we lost??

quote:

This team is average to terrible in every phase of the game

Lost 2 games by 3 points, combined.

quote:

there's zero difference in how this team LOOKS from year 1 to year 3

Not true. Just stop posting.
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