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Posted on 10/13/13 at 11:12 pm to GatorsGators
Posted on 10/13/13 at 11:12 pm to GatorsGators
I don't even know if our OL is that bad from a talent perspective. Got to question OL development too I think. Maybe we spend most of our time practicing run blocking instead of pass blocking?
Posted on 10/14/13 at 12:08 am to boXerrumble
I personally give Pease and one more year mostly because firing a guy after a 11 win season last year( and what looks to be a 9 win season this year) doesn't sit well with me. 7-5 though and he's gone.
We will be better at every single skill position next year on offense. Robinson and Fullwood will be a year older in the offense( we all saw how many reads they missed in the LSU game). Two Senior QB's. The only thing I'm not sure on is how OL will shake out. I think Harrison is leaving, and Halapio IIRC finally graduates( which can only be looked at as a positive at this point). And I think LP and Roberson are gone too.
This is the first time we've had two consecutive years with having the same OC since Mullen.
We will be better at every single skill position next year on offense. Robinson and Fullwood will be a year older in the offense( we all saw how many reads they missed in the LSU game). Two Senior QB's. The only thing I'm not sure on is how OL will shake out. I think Harrison is leaving, and Halapio IIRC finally graduates( which can only be looked at as a positive at this point). And I think LP and Roberson are gone too.
This is the first time we've had two consecutive years with having the same OC since Mullen.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 1:06 am to jefffan
No we had Addazio two consecutive years.
Remember Addazio? His offense was every bit this bad. Pease wasn't the reason we won 11 games last year. Muschamp and Quinn get the votes on that for outstanding defense. Our offense won the Tenn and FSU games...and that's about it. We are a team full of four and five stars and our offense plays like it has 1 and 2 stars. How do teams like Stanford despite not recruit even remotely close to us run our offense absurdly better than us? You can blame players some, but we've got too much talent to say its on the players, because that many kids can't be freaking bust. Its on developing and the complete lack of sense on the offensive side of the ball. Look at our WRs. One year with Phillips, best group since 2009. Good coaching all the sudden we have good receivers. White coaches RBs, before he coached TEs. Ingram, Hernendez, Gilly, this group. Notice he developed talent WELL. Recognition of talent in practice is bad(see Murphy and Taylor). Play calling takes no advantage of other teams weakness.
I'll be at the game..but I may go into boo mode soon like in 09. I don't pay thousands a year to see games and give support from merchandise, donations, etc. To see failure when it shouldn't be there. We shouldn't accept terrible play, it's inexcusable. Not at UF. We have top five classes yearly, yet can't put an offense on the field worth anything. It's god awful. I've tried to defend it, I have. I'm done with that. It's as everyone else has said. A shitty arse offense. It's not managing, it's BAD. Gilly and Reed saved us from this season we are about to watch last year. We don't have it this year it seems. If you think we beat Georgia, FSU, and USCe with this, well..I wish I was as positive. We aren't going 9-3. We aren't good enough to go 9-3. Not with our schedule and this offense.
Remember Addazio? His offense was every bit this bad. Pease wasn't the reason we won 11 games last year. Muschamp and Quinn get the votes on that for outstanding defense. Our offense won the Tenn and FSU games...and that's about it. We are a team full of four and five stars and our offense plays like it has 1 and 2 stars. How do teams like Stanford despite not recruit even remotely close to us run our offense absurdly better than us? You can blame players some, but we've got too much talent to say its on the players, because that many kids can't be freaking bust. Its on developing and the complete lack of sense on the offensive side of the ball. Look at our WRs. One year with Phillips, best group since 2009. Good coaching all the sudden we have good receivers. White coaches RBs, before he coached TEs. Ingram, Hernendez, Gilly, this group. Notice he developed talent WELL. Recognition of talent in practice is bad(see Murphy and Taylor). Play calling takes no advantage of other teams weakness.
I'll be at the game..but I may go into boo mode soon like in 09. I don't pay thousands a year to see games and give support from merchandise, donations, etc. To see failure when it shouldn't be there. We shouldn't accept terrible play, it's inexcusable. Not at UF. We have top five classes yearly, yet can't put an offense on the field worth anything. It's god awful. I've tried to defend it, I have. I'm done with that. It's as everyone else has said. A shitty arse offense. It's not managing, it's BAD. Gilly and Reed saved us from this season we are about to watch last year. We don't have it this year it seems. If you think we beat Georgia, FSU, and USCe with this, well..I wish I was as positive. We aren't going 9-3. We aren't good enough to go 9-3. Not with our schedule and this offense.
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Posted on 10/14/13 at 1:06 am to jefffan
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Posted on 10/14/13 at 1:28 am to 08Gatorbait
Muschamp has basically dropped the ball on offensive staff for the last 3 years. Joker and White are the only ones I really trust are doing their jobs well.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 1:37 am to 08Gatorbait
The only game I'm worried about the rest of the way is FSU, and they will not face a defense as good as ours until that game.
Mizzou was scare but with their starting QB and Gaines they are not beating UF( even though like every other game this season it will be close).
UGA is a worry only because Gurley mostly likely will be back. I've watched every UGA game this year and their OL is marginal, their defense is complete shite, and we had 6 turnovers in that game last year and almost had a chance to win at the end. With all the injuries they have we can win that game.
USC has never impressed me. Shaw may look good against Arky and Vandy but he doesn't play as well against elite teams. Davis is running hard now though. And they defense gave up 28 points to UK at home.
Listen, nobody wins in BR. Nobody. And the teams that do get lucky and win ( Bama last year) are national title contending teams. I don't know what your expectations of this team were to begin the year, but I've never thought of this team as a national title contending team even with our preseason ranking. We are not nearly as bad this year as the teams from 2011 or 2010. Next year is the make or break year for us and the coaching staff IMO.
Mizzou was scare but with their starting QB and Gaines they are not beating UF( even though like every other game this season it will be close).
UGA is a worry only because Gurley mostly likely will be back. I've watched every UGA game this year and their OL is marginal, their defense is complete shite, and we had 6 turnovers in that game last year and almost had a chance to win at the end. With all the injuries they have we can win that game.
USC has never impressed me. Shaw may look good against Arky and Vandy but he doesn't play as well against elite teams. Davis is running hard now though. And they defense gave up 28 points to UK at home.
Listen, nobody wins in BR. Nobody. And the teams that do get lucky and win ( Bama last year) are national title contending teams. I don't know what your expectations of this team were to begin the year, but I've never thought of this team as a national title contending team even with our preseason ranking. We are not nearly as bad this year as the teams from 2011 or 2010. Next year is the make or break year for us and the coaching staff IMO.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 7:27 am to jefffan
Derek Lewis TE coach.
Jeff Choete (sic) Special Teams (WTF has he done to Christy)
Obviously Tim Davis. Last year our Oline could not pass protect. This year has seen little improvement. Tyler Murphy escapes at least 3 sacks a game.
Jeff Choete (sic) Special Teams (WTF has he done to Christy)
Obviously Tim Davis. Last year our Oline could not pass protect. This year has seen little improvement. Tyler Murphy escapes at least 3 sacks a game.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 9:59 am to BloodSweat&Beers
I am not sure on Choate. I honestly don't think you can frick up a punter/kicker. I think that is just a mental issue with them. I mean look at the Velez kid.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:40 am to BasedGator
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I think Muschamp wants our offense at its core to be a strong physical run offense. As a result, we don't practice the pass game anywhere near as much (remember we can only practice 20hours a week). So I'm not shocked our passing games doesn't do everything it can to exploit a defense (or the receivers just aren't as good at it due to lack of practice)
pure speculation, congrats you make up a nice story
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:42 am to jefffan
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I personally give Pease and one more year mostly because firing a guy after a 11 win season last year( and what looks to be a 9 win season this year) doesn't sit well with me. 7-5 though and he's gone.
Our offense was TERRIBLE LAST YEAR. I don't think he is getting it done.
After our year with Charlie, Pease should have a short leash, I think two years is plenty.
Posted on 10/14/13 at 11:43 am to austingator
Cam Cameron turned LSU around in one off season. We can do better, other teams with worse personnel are doing better than us. Good grief, we are only behind KY!
Posted on 10/14/13 at 12:48 pm to austingator
White and joker are great coaches. They deserve a raise for the work they are doing as does the whole defensive staff.
But does anyone notice there is NO improvement on our oline and our te position may in fact be the worst in college football despite two star recruits..let's be honest. Thompson or Taylor most likely are better than clay or westbrook just like Taylor is better than brown or Jones and Murphy was better than driskel. Our offensive staff apparently has zero ability to access talent so why should I at all believe them when they say Taylor and Colin aren't ready? At least Addazio generally kept the best players on the field, he just didnt know how to call a game.
But does anyone notice there is NO improvement on our oline and our te position may in fact be the worst in college football despite two star recruits..let's be honest. Thompson or Taylor most likely are better than clay or westbrook just like Taylor is better than brown or Jones and Murphy was better than driskel. Our offensive staff apparently has zero ability to access talent so why should I at all believe them when they say Taylor and Colin aren't ready? At least Addazio generally kept the best players on the field, he just didnt know how to call a game.
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