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re: FIRE JIM MCELWAIN
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:37 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:37 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Washington State QB Luke Falk threw all five of his interceptions against four or fewer pass rushers
Wash St never recovered from the kickoff return for a td called back, they never looked the same after.
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Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:43 am to Gatorbait2008
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Ill take Mike Leach
Me too but i dont see him leaving Wash St. Jake Spavital could warrant a look. Look at the QB's he's worked with.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 1:46 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Do you think Zaire couldn't do what he did, or that he would do it worse? If all we're holding onto him is for his legwork, he's not doing it better than Zaire.
Mac must not think he can do any better, he's been a no show for 5 weeks and didn't put him in today.
It is Mac and Nuss' responsibility to develop Franks. It is their job to evaluate the talent and put the best guy out there. It is their job to gameplan. They are being paid millions of dollars. If Franks is as bad as you say he is and the reason for the loss, why are you not more upset with the staff for putting him in that position and setting us up for failure?
This post was edited on 10/15/17 at 1:52 am
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:06 am to bgator85
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Mac must not think he can do any better, he's been a no show for 5 weeks and didn't put him in today.
It is Mac and Nuss' responsibility to develop Franks. It is their job to evaluate the talent and put the best guy out there. It is their job to gameplan. They are being paid millions of dollars. If Franks is as bad as you say he is and the reason for the loss, why are you not more upset with the staff for putting him in that position and setting us up for failure?
I'm going to ask you a question, not as a deflection but just to set up the situation:
You come into this game, and Franks underperformed against LSU. Bad playcalling, too. LSU was lost by playcalling almost exclusively. Franks doesn't help, but they had no ''alternative'' or ''Franks package''.
This week they did that for the most part. They kept Franks in manageable situations and used the weapons around him to make points.
The problem is: We were winning until the last minute of the game.
Against LSU we were always in the game.
Putting in Zaire when we're winning isn't going to look good, and really putting him in at any point wouldn't have looked good.
What we've found out these last two games is: If Franks has to win the game with his arm -- he will not. He cannot. He is incapable. There's no alternative afforded to McElwain.
I think he should have tried Zaire in LSU, even if it's only for a down or two. This week I think he should have started Zaire. It DOES bother me, the most about this game. Because I think Zaire actually has the weapons, the drive to win the game.
Hopefully we start Zaire against Georgia, they showed some real gaps in their defense that we could exploit, but we can't have Franks doing it.
As for developing Franks: Franks has always been a 2/3 year project. He has raw talent but he doesn't have the QB ''Intellect'', which is extremely valuable to any given quarterback.
If Zaire doesn't start, we're fricked. Franks isn't winning games with his arm.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:39 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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If Zaire doesn't start, we're fricked.
Basically.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 2:50 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Could you imagine what the staff would go through if they start Zaire and he were to beat UGA?? Or played well enough to win? fans would rip his arse apart lol
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:26 am to dbuchanon
UF ain't beating uga without something miraculous happening like 6 turnovers and even then it would be close.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:41 am to slayerxing
“What should be done eventually, must be done immediately.”
Posted on 10/15/17 at 7:48 am to gatordmb89
Agreed.
Posted on 10/15/17 at 10:03 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
You admit that play calling is a big issue so why would not think that the coaches are the reason every QB we have sucks ? At the end of the day it's Macs fault . He recruited the players and hired the staff. He is a offensive guy and could take over the offense and fix it if he knew how.
I am with you guys on Zaire starting . The guy was junk against Michigan and can't pass . He will fail as bad if not worse then all of the other QBs that Mac has used. Del Rio looked good for a short time against UK but sucked against Vandy who can't stop anyone right now .
How do you guys expect to win next year ? You want Mac to return next year . So tell us how is the team going to be better ? You going to rely on the staff to get a stud QB and have him lead this team next year ?
I am with you guys on Zaire starting . The guy was junk against Michigan and can't pass . He will fail as bad if not worse then all of the other QBs that Mac has used. Del Rio looked good for a short time against UK but sucked against Vandy who can't stop anyone right now .
How do you guys expect to win next year ? You want Mac to return next year . So tell us how is the team going to be better ? You going to rely on the staff to get a stud QB and have him lead this team next year ?
Posted on 10/15/17 at 10:08 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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You come into this game, and Franks underperformed against LSU. Bad playcalling, too. LSU was lost by playcalling almost exclusively. Franks doesn't help, but they had no ''alternative'' or ''Franks package''.
This week they did that for the most part. They kept Franks in manageable situations and used the weapons around him to make points
Is your position that nothing should change with the offensive staff? You seem to put all blame on the players, and excuse their performance so I take it you think these guys are doing a good job with this offense?
This post was edited on 10/15/17 at 10:11 am
Posted on 10/15/17 at 10:38 am to bgator85
re: Jim McElwain is now 5-11 in games when the other team scores more than 14 points.Posted on 10/15/17 at 10:13 am to CarolinaGamecock99
People forget that he was doing this regularly at Bama too.
2008
7 offensive points and less than 200 yards of offense against Tulane
10 offensive points against Kentucky
10 offensive points against Utah in the Sugar Bowl
2009
13 offensive points against South Carolina
Held without a TD against 7-6 Tennessee team, needed a lucky FG to escape with win
2010
Bama scored three offensive points (that came off a turnover) in the second half of the Auburn game which was a big reason why they blew that huge lead
2011
9-6 enough said. McElwain should have been tipped to his shreds for his play calling in this game.
McElwain was a terrible OC who benefited tremendously from Bama's defense, special teams and the talent brought in by Saban (Julio Jones, Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson, Eddie Lacy, McCarron, a great offensive line, etc..). Even with those guys, the offensive production was very mediocre. It's no wonder why he's struggling when he has to actually build an offense himself
People forget that he was doing this regularly at Bama too.
2008
7 offensive points and less than 200 yards of offense against Tulane
10 offensive points against Kentucky
10 offensive points against Utah in the Sugar Bowl
2009
13 offensive points against South Carolina
Held without a TD against 7-6 Tennessee team, needed a lucky FG to escape with win
2010
Bama scored three offensive points (that came off a turnover) in the second half of the Auburn game which was a big reason why they blew that huge lead
2011
9-6 enough said. McElwain should have been tipped to his shreds for his play calling in this game.
McElwain was a terrible OC who benefited tremendously from Bama's defense, special teams and the talent brought in by Saban (Julio Jones, Mark Ingram, Trent Richardson, Eddie Lacy, McCarron, a great offensive line, etc..). Even with those guys, the offensive production was very mediocre. It's no wonder why he's struggling when he has to actually build an offense himself
Posted on 10/15/17 at 10:41 am to GatorNation4Lyfe
^ and this is who we hired to coach Florida football? McElwain hasn't proven a thing but mediocrity at best.
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