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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:52 am to
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:52 am to
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FSU: Oh here's some numbers we're accustomed to when having to play in a hostile environment and asked to make a bunch of passes.

13 of 32, 2 interceptions.


Most passes hes thrown all season. But again, he made KEY 3rd down passes and runs in this game, and thats with FSU refs fricking our offense again and again.

Seriously, you think we would've been in the FSU game with Driskel? FSU might've blown us out by 30 and I truly believe that.

Treon didn't perform well enough for us to win that game, but after 4 years of Driskel I think we can all agree that Driskel would've done worse in that situation.
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:07 am to
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boXerrumble

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, but after 4 years of Driskel I think we can all agree that Driskel would've done worse in that situation


Driskel has had so many problems I think because of fan behavior. He has the strongest arm on the team, used to be faster running the ball etc etc...but he caved in mentality

Put yourselves in his shoes when all the media and fans and social media are blasting you and blaming you for everything that happened bad. You would be come a head case too. Id be in jail for homicide cause I would have choked out a few #@!%& who said anything to me on campus.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:20 am to
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Driskel has had so many problems I think because of fan behavior. He has the strongest arm on the team, used to be faster running the ball etc etc...but he caved in mentality

Put yourselves in his shoes when all the media and fans and social media are blasting you and blaming you for everything that happened bad. You would be come a head case too. Id be in jail for homicide cause I would have choked out a few #@!%& who said anything to me on campus.


This is all I'm asking really. Put yourself in his shoes. A lot of problems on this team were not his fault and after four years of Muschamp offense I think it's easier to place blame appropriately at this point.

After breaking his leg and coming back to the team -- they play like absolute garbage and magically reawaken.

Fans don't support you.

Team doesn't support you.

It's probably a pretty godawful feeling, and he handled it extremely well.
Posted by bengalbait
Grove Lounge
Member since Sep 2009
4483 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 3:52 pm to
Driskel's problems are much more than just the fans being down on him. His Golly gee dumbass look on the sideline after he fu@ks up sitting on the bench by himself and not stepping up as a leader is his biggest issue. As a D1 QB on a nationally recognized team you have to be able to lead your team, then you get their buy in and the fans follow, not the other way around. He's a superior athlete that unfortunately is as dumb as a box of hammers.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 4:46 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 4:19 pm to
Look, in the Mizzou game, Driskel had absolutely no confidence right from the start. He mentally broke against LSU when he threw the INT at the end, and from that point it was over.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 4:54 pm to
I can't believe you guys still fall for this same song n dance. Lol
Posted by gatortrav88
Member since Oct 2014
3807 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 6:21 pm to
no reason to even bother trying with 2 young guys like grier and harris that need reps
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 7:30 pm to
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Look, in the Mizzou game, Driskel had absolutely no confidence right from the start. He mentally broke against LSU when he threw the INT at the end, and from that point it was over.


You mean that one game where a receiver dropped a slant and it popped up unfortunately in a defender's hands?

Or the other perfect throw in the end zone dropped by Westbrook that would have won the game?

The entire team did horribly in the Mizzou game.

And those calling for his leadership: When no one's giving effort even though you are, it's pretty damn hard to say "come on guys" when they're all rooting for the freshman behind your back who hasn't done jack shite else to earn the starting position.

Aside from play the exact same way in big games, and not have to do anything in other games.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 7:32 pm to
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I can't believe you guys still fall for this same song n dance. Lol


I can't believe Harris waltzes in and performs the exact same in a big game and people still think QB is the biggest issue on our offense.

Our entire offense is an absolute mess from every position.
Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6421 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:27 pm to
This is big game football not some YMCA everybody gets a trophy. We're talking about a major program that brings in millions upon millions of dollars every year that supports not just football but multiple programs for UF's men and woman. Spare me the Driskel's hurt feelings. You play the game, you better be ready to get roasted when you play like shite.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:07 pm to
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This is big game football not some YMCA everybody gets a trophy. We're talking about a major program that brings in millions upon millions of dollars every year that supports not just football but multiple programs for UF's men and woman. Spare me the Driskel's hurt feelings. You play the game, you better be ready to get roasted when you play like shite.


Then direct it at the Oline who couldn't block, the RBs that didn't produce and the WRs who had, on average, 5 drops a goddamn game before you blame the quarterback.

Hell, there's more culpability for the coaching staff -- which should have gotten fired.

But it's pretty difficult to be successful when nothing is going right on offense at every level.
Posted by LuciusSulla
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2010
2703 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:02 am to
For the record, he's not "dumb as a box of hammers." Most of you see him play games, but he is actually a student at Florida when he isn't playing football, and he isn't a dumb one. I know that for a fact. I'm willing to bet that you don't.

Grown adults calling students names on the Internet is pretty shitty, IMO. I realize that is generally out of frustration rather than the person posting such comments really being a bad person, but it's crappy to do none the less. Leave the criticism to what they do on the field. We're better than that I hope.
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 12:03 am
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
13266 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 12:12 am to
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 4:26 am to
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boXerrumble


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Look, in the Mizzou game, Driskel had absolutely no confidence right from the start. He mentally broke against LSU when he threw the INT at the end, and from that point it was over.


I didn't know Driskel was put in on the kickoff and punt return coverage teams? Did not know that. We got into a hole quick when Murphy took opening kick and went the distance and it continued. Did Driskel play bad? Yep....but there are 11 guys on offense and theres plenty of blame sandwich to go around.

Posted by GatorNation4Lyfe
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
6421 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 7:56 am to
Oh, I blamed Muschamp for our woes that last 4 years. It was very clear to me early in his tenure that he didn't know how to effectively coach up his players. I still trying to think what players did he make better??

I was very vocal about wanting Muschamp gone. I said much worst things about him because I don't blame the players at all. But, if a kid is playing bad, I will admit it. All bets are off when a kid is not performing. I tell it like it is. The QB performance has been real bad. Brantley, Driskel, Brissett, Murphey, Harris, it didn't matter. That tells me it was coaching but still everyone of those players put themselves up for scrutiny the moment they stepped on the field.
Posted by bengalbait
Grove Lounge
Member since Sep 2009
4483 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:03 am to
I apologize that I was not more clear as to my comment. Of course I don't know of JD's academic prowess, I'm simply saying that based on my observation of his mental abilities to make sound decisions during the games he is less than average most of the time and much worse others.
Posted by UFMatt
Gator Nation - Everywhere
Member since Oct 2010
11451 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 8:51 am to
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He's a superior athlete that unfortunately is as dumb as a box of hammers.


It is unfortunate that people who call themselves fans of a university say things like this about a student athlete. While I admit that Jeff was not successful in his time as a starting QB at UF, I am quite sure that he isn't dumb as a box of hammers or a dumbass. This is the kind of talk that discourages high school kids from attending the University of Florida and makes us appear to be idiots to other fan bases. Everyone that plays QB for the Gators isn't going to be Danny W or Tim T. Some will not make it for a number of reasons but all need our support.
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:03 am to
Treon probably would've been a walking turnover as well had we asked him to throw 25+ times a game against good secondaries like we did with Driskel.

They were both awful. Of course Treon has more of an excuse to be bad as a true freshman, but he has a long ways to go to even be decent. Hopefully Grier steps up.
Posted by StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Member since Sep 2013
21146 posts
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:18 am to
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Treon probably would've been a walking turnover as well had we asked him to throw 25+ times a game against good secondaries like we did with Driskel.


Yep, especially with the game plan of "randomly throw deep passes for no other reason other than for a change of pace. Not because the QB/offensive coordinator sees an opening and audibles out, just chuck it up."

It's just strange how our offensive gameplan just seemed to be nonexistent. I don't think either QB would have fared well, but I do think Harris turns the ball over just as much if not more if he had to play in Tuscaloosa.

The problem was definitely in the offensive scheme and not the players, but, we're about to see if we can get some form of change -- and it's nice to have an offensive mind on the field who can coach up some of the players when they make mistakes.

It sucks to throw a pick and have to talk to your OC on the fricking phone all alone with no one supporting you.

Damn I just feel bad for the kid.
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