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montanagator
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Other forums are saying Christobal to the Ducks might open a staff slot at Bama for Locksley meaning we'd probably have to give him an actual OC (not co-OC) slot to steal him
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atlgator
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TJGator1215



Through 3 years Will Muschamp was 13-11 against the SEC

Through 2 years Jim McElwain s 13-3 against the SEC

You can cite yards statistics and say the East is bad all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that the Gators you despise so much are 13-3 against the SEC in the last two years, when they won the same number of games over a 3 year span under Muschamp.


dbuchanon
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Regardless how the East is

Id rather be rebuilding at the top than at the bottom

But im a true fan so..
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atlgator
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I know I know..



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GatorBalls14
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After seeing how rumors and actual truths are being talked about, I feel like nothing is going to happen with our offensive staff at this point.


montanagator
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If that happens people will poimt to Mac saying there wouldn't be any changes and ask why people thought there might be some.


reel_gator8
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montana...do they play football in Montana? I think your brain and personality is frostbite....so bite my warm ass.
you wanna bash? go to the damn steel cage.


atlgator
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After seeing how rumors and actual truths are being talked about, I feel like nothing is going to happen with our offensive staff at this point.



You guys have less than no patience


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TJGator1215
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UF is not at the top. 83-31 to Bama is not even close.


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TJGator1215
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Wrong. Compare the first 2 years:

WM: 18-8 4-7 vs top 25 Offensive ranks: #105, #104
Defensive ranks: #5,#8
JM: 19-8 3-7 vs top 25 Offensive ranks: #112, #116
Defensive Ranks:#8,#5

Almost mirror images of one another except in recruiting:

WM: NATL: #11,#4 ;#5, #2 IN SEC
JM: NATL: #21, #19; #10, #8 IN SEC

VS SEC 1st 2 years:

WM: 10-6 SEC opponents SEC W-L 63-57
JM: 13-3 SEC opponents SEC W-L 55-72 add in SECCG, Bama 16 SEC wins 71-72.
WOW. MAC IS A WORSE OFFENSIVE COACH THAN WM. MAC IS A WORSE RECRUITER, ALMOST IDENTICAL TO WM EVEN THOUGH WM HAD TO PLAY IN A TOUGHER SEC IN HIS FIRST 2 YEARS. Both are terrible coaches.
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olemc999
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montana...do they play football in Montana? I think your brain and personality is frostbite....so bite my warm ass.


McElwain is from Montana


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dbuchanon
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You keep bringing up their first two years. Jeez youre an idiot to compare the team Champ walked into to the team Mac walked into.

Mac walked into a team one season off of a 4 win csmpaign. Mac is having to fix the team that got WM fired .

Mac took the team that got WM fired and won 10 games... hhhmmmm


TJGator1215
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The team Mac took over was 7-5. You can't compare Mac's first 2 years to WMs 3. Its illogical. WM took over a team with 1 QB, 2 undersized backs, no playmakers at WR and TE Reed. UFs offenee in 2010 was awful and the team went that didn't fit his scheme and a poor OL with a great defense. Or did you forget watching JB4, Trey Burton and Reed play QB Meyers last year? Mac got to use WMs QB for 6 games, DRob, KT, and a healthy defense. Or did you forget about how decimated that team that went 4-8 was by injury? Mac played in the worst division in the power 5 and needed UT to shite the bed to win it. He needed a FG to beat a bad Vandy team and OT to beat 3-9 FAU. A UT FG from losing to UT and has been blown out in 7 games while the HC at UF. He's doing The same thing he did at CSU by getting destroyed by good teams and beating up on weaker teams. Both of them suck and they're the exact same poor coaches, staff evaluators but Mac is an overall worse recruiter which is mind boggling given he's at the Flagship school in the most talent state for football recruits.


BasedGator
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The team Mac took over was 7-5. You can't compare Mac's first 2 years to WMs 3. Its illogical. WM took over a team with 1 QB, 2 undersized backs, no playmakers at WR and TE Reed. UFs offenee in 2010 was awful and the team went that didn't fit his scheme and a poor OL with a great defense. Or did you forget watching JB4, Trey Burton and Reed play QB Meyers last year? Mac got to use WMs QB for 6 games, DRob, KT, and a healthy defense. Or did you forget about how decimated that team that went 4-8 was by injury? Mac played in the worst division in the power 5 and needed UT to shite the bed to win it. He needed a FG to beat a bad Vandy team and OT to beat 3-9 FAU. A UT FG from losing to UT and has been blown out in 7 games while the HC at UF. He's doing The same thing he did at CSU by getting destroyed by good teams and beating up on weaker teams. Both of them suck and they're the exact same poor coaches, staff evaluators but Mac is an overall worse recruiter which is mind boggling given he's at the Flagship school in the most talent state for football recruits.


WOW this is incredibly wrong. Meyer's 2010 class might literally be the best recruiting class of all time. That is what Muschamp walked into.

Meyer left Muschamp on offense: 4 NFL RBs (Demps, Rainey, Gills, Mack Brown), 3 NFL receivers (DT, Hammond, and Burton) along with 2-pseudo NFL receivers/college playmakers in Patton and Debose, and bunch of NFL OL. He also left a decent senior in JB, and the #1 rated QB.

It is complete revisionist history to say Meyer left no talent. It just may have appeared that way because Muschamp COMPLETELY squandered that talent. If it were not for Gills, that 2012 season would have been shite too.
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BasedGator
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Like, I cannot take anyone seriously that think Mac and Muschamp are comparable on offense.


TJGator1215
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Mac had worse offenses than WM and UM left WM A loaded defense with a broken JB4, with zero talent at WR and Jordan reed as the only offensive threat. That 2010 was loaded on defense like I said above. Weis trying to run Demps and Rainey up the gut.


TJGator1215
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UF 2011 team was awful on offense. Deonte Thompson, Hammond and Burton made the nfl that doesn't mean they were great. Demps was UF returning leading rusher at 551 yards. Burton-DT-FHJ had 84 catches 1056 yards and 4 TDs in 2010. Mac. inherited DRob, Fulwood and BP who caught 80 1156 and 9 TDs Gtfo with that shite. WM had to start Driskel and Brissett because Brantley was hurt during the Bama game. Gilly didn't play much until his SR yr. Neither did Mack Brown. Brantley was LDR before LDR arrived and barely passed for like 2800 yards with 9-10 TD-int rate. He was awful and had no confidence. WM had an OL patched together with Wenger, a grad transfer from ND, bust in Nixon, oft injured Patchan, Jon Halapio and TR FR Chaz Green. He had depth but it was experienced or talented.
Mac's OL was depleted but he had the same if not more talent on offense when he was hired.

QB

Driskel
Grier
Treon

RB

KT21
Lane

WR
DRob
Powell


Mac just had the benefit of playing the East when it's been at it's worst.


LMAO at You thinking Meyer left WM legit NFL players on offense. An nfl OL LMAO. Those players you mentioned are STs in the NFL. They all combined have less than 500 yards and 5 tds. Nfl talent on offense. Hahaha. Thanks for the laughs at your expense.
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atlgator
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They're in the NFL, on active rosters, so they're NFL players you dumb motherfricker.



TJGator1215
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Then you have to include Thurman, KT21, Pittman, Showers, Driskel, Halter, Harrell, etc. They made the nfl.

Also draft picks 1st 2 years.

WM: Meyer's recruits

2012-5Th rd-Rainey
2013-1st Rd-Floyd, Elam
2nd-Bostic
3Rd-Reed
4Th-Jenkins
5Th-Gilly

2016: Mac with WM recruits
1St: VH3, Neal
3Rd: Bullard
4Th: Morrison, DRob
6Th: KT21
7Th: Amac

2017 projected Nfl draft picks
Brantley
Davis
Tabor
Wilson
Anzalone
Maye
McMillan
Ivie

2018

Washington
Dawson
Harris

WM left Mac more NFL talent than Meyer left WM especially on defense.


atlgator
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If they're getting paid to be in the NFL, they're NFL players. You're cherry picking names off the top of your head. With a little research, you'd find many more names of NFL players that Muschamp inherited

What's your obsession with Muschamp? For someone who hates Mac so much for winning, you would think that you would hate him even more since he won significantly less often than Mac has so far


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