re: The Official Coaching Search Thread- updates in OP

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I know we all want Fuente, but if he falls through then I believe Kirby is the next best.

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I think the Muschamp failure is still fresh in the minds of anyone considering the "successful coordinator to head coach" jump.

Muschamp could recruit, that is undeniable. It's also undeniable that Smart can recruit. It's hard to imagine Smart will be able to lure many of the position coaches away from Alabama with him, so the burden of assembling an all-new coaching squad will be on him. So while Smart may be able to get all the talent in the world, it means nothing if the coaching doesn't click - and that's what worries me about the choice of Smart. Something about it just reminds me of Muschamp, and he had wayyy more resources and prestige to build on at Florida.

This isn't to say that hiring Smart wouldn't get me excited, there would just be a bit of nerves that would come with it.

I think if you get a coach like Fuente, who obviously has the capability of turning a turd into a diamond, and can bring the staff he is comfortable with him, you're making the right move. If he falls through, I think you have to throw the kitchen sink at Herman.

As much as I wish we were, I just don't think we're in a position to make a "high risk-high reward" move. Those are just my thoughts.

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I loudly proclaimed that "If Spurrier ever becomes the Carolina head coach I'm done with Carolina ball." 

I ate those words like an ethiopian at a buffet. 

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Don't put this voodoo on me

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That loss at home to App St, combined with their aging HC killed their image and program. Rich was brought in to repair it and he was doing that.

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That one loss was not enough to excuse taking over a 9-4 (6-2) team and then going:

3-9 (2-6)
5-7 (1-7)
7-6 (3-5)

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He took at team that lost to App St the year before he got there and had an improved his number of games won every year (3 years.)

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He started with 3 wins. Not really anywhere to go but up.

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That one loss was not enough to excuse taking over a 9-4 (6-2) team and then going:

3-9 (2-6)
5-7 (1-7)
7-6 (3-5)

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Just like Spurrier, the last coach, Lloyd Carr was upper 60's and getting killed in recruiting his last couple of years, he left Rich with nothing. Rich left Hoke with a team/talent capable of 11-2 his first year, and then Hoke bombed after that.

Besides Michigan, look at everywhere else Rich was at, his teams did historically better with him there. He's not the best HC option on our board, but he's not a bad HC. He's 151-100 all time as a HC. He had a double digit win total last year in Zona, it was their 1st double digit win total since 1998 and the 2nd in their history. He took a team that won 3 games the year before with Mike Stoops (that was dying in recruiting in '10 and '11 and somehow won 8 games with them his first year. They'll probably win 10 games again this year.

I am sorry but i dont want smart, i want fuente or herman. Hell, i would rather go after pruett at UGA than smart. I cant predict the future, but something about smart just makes me think he is fools gold.

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I am sorry but i dont want smart,

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You're going to miss the "My Cock Is Smart" t-shirt craze.

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You're going to miss the "My Cock Is Smart" t-shirt craze.

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Fuente is the number one target, for obvious reasons. And he has an option in his contract to leave for a very small buyout.

Herman would sure get us in Texas, recruiting wise, I would think. But he's only been there a year and it'll be interesting to see where his buyout number is.

Smart ... I dunno, I just don't know. Historically speaking it is usually smarter to go with someone with head coaching experience.

Rich Rod ... whew. He would demand the biggest paycheck plus, again, I dunno. He has a little baggage. He left WVA in a weird way. He tanked at Michigan. He's doing well at ASU but if he left so soon, again, some might view it in a weird way.

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Yeah I'm not so sure that Herman leaves Houston after only 1 year.

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I didn't think so, either, but his recent comments about being disappointed at fan support despite the product he's putting on the field have made me think he's allowing for an out. And our school had legendary fan support- even people who think this is a shitty job still say we've got better fans than we deserve.

One thing about Herman is how intelligent he is; guy's a MENSA member. He's thinking about the long play overall. His name is ultra hot right now-this may be his best chance to cash in on that before anything starts to falter.

Not saying he'll leave, cos I think he's the longest shot of the Big 3, but that there is some room for speculation. Supposedly the guys at TBS believe he's reached out to show interest. Could be for a raise, could be genuine.

Bluefin.