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re: Top SEC Schools (U.S. News and World Report)

Posted on 4/19/17 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14099 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 6:13 pm to
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I've never seen one.


That's not surprising, and illustrates my point, exactly.
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 6:16 pm to
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Bottom 3 in SEC: Arkansas
Ole Miss
Mississippi State


But but...it's a great place to live
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
28540 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 6:52 pm to
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But but...it's a great place to live


Correction, NW Arkansas is a great place to live
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 6:54 pm to
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But but...it's a great place to live


Yeah, it's trash, and sinking like a stone. Forbes had NWA at #3 last year. We slipped to #5 this year.

Sads all around. :(
Posted by The muffintime
Tampa Bay Metro
Member since Jan 2017
563 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 6:57 pm to
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harvard's rep is for liberal arts at undergrad level and it doesn't graduate many engineers compared to large state universities in engineering. you don't know this because you are a sidewalk fan who didn't attend college.

Most if not Ivy League schools, at the undergrad level, are KNOWN for massive grade-inflation. A's are handed out like flyers there. The real advantage to going to an undergrad Ivy League institution is in the networking and social doors that it opens up for you. The education is pretty average, and most programs have better counterparts somewhere else.

Don't underestimate the power of image and networking, though. It makes a Harvard undergrad degree totally worth it even though you didn't receive an exceptional education.

Where some of the Ivy League schools really shine academically is in their graduate programs. From medicine to law to business, some of the best grad programs in the world are found in the Ivy League.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 7:05 pm to
i agree with that for most part. I'm not sure if the high cost of Ivy League is worth it for every kid graduates from it though. Some kids are going to be bad at networking regardless of where they go. And not all of the majors lead to high paying jobs.

I also think Ivy League on resume could have potential to hurt your chances of getting jobs because of the stereotype of being snobbish, or maybe recruiters will think you are too smart for certain job, etc.

Every college has strengths and weaknesses in research. Clemson for example does a lot of advanced material science research and it has a technology office park near campus that hires a lot of people.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 7:08 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54621 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:20 pm to
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how come you don't follow any specific SEC team?


Because I am old and connected to pretty much all of them including the former schools (Sewanee, Tulane, and Georgia Tech). I have spent the majority of my life in the south and have come to appreciate all the schools for the individual part they add to the whole. While this may be foreign to you, if you fully understood the dynamic you would see why I have a strong attachment for all the schools to excel in at least 1 area of focus.

If you are the engineer you claim to be you are aware you may have sub specialists who complete a very narrow and specific part of the project but a few filks on the team are the ones who know how to put all the parts together to create the finished product.

It is why I think you really are an alter troll because a true tech person generally understands the team nature of any process.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54621 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:26 pm to
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Don't underestimate the power of image and networking, though.


:kige:

While I agree the networking is of great advantage, the bigger advantage is the pool of students in a class.

If you are a student at a broad based state level school you are generally drawing from a narrow local talent pool who will return grads to jobs inside that specific state. A law degree from Ole Miss may not have a highly driven overall talent pool but they will produce lawyers to practice law in Mississippi. Compared to say Harvard Business school where 90% or more of the entering class will start their own business or work for a Fortune 50 company. When you are surrounded by more competitive classmates you tend to produce a better finished product.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:48 pm to
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etty much all of them including the former schools (Sewanee,


lol you must be old if you still think of as a former SEC school
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54621 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:52 pm to
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you must be old


Yes, I probably have nose hair older than you.

It is also an understanding of gentlemen impressed in my youth. it goes back to the roots of the SEC in being all for 1 and 1 for all. The fact you never seem to understand this simple concept if proof why Clemson will never be in the SEC no matter how much they desire to be.
Posted by Tillman
Member since May 2016
12363 posts
Posted on 4/19/17 at 9:58 pm to
i just want Clemson beat the teams on the schedule. i don't see difference b/t playing one group of large state schools vs another.

as i've said numerous times, SEC teams don't form some kind of tag team. they are just as much rivals of each other as Clemson is with each of them. your all for 1 and 1 for all thing doesn't make any sense. lol

you are almost a living caricature of the SEC cheerleader fan.

conferences don't host trophies, teams do. conferences don't win games, teams do.
This post was edited on 4/19/17 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54621 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 4:10 am to
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conferences don't host trophies, teams do. conferences don't win games, teams do.


Conferences do negotiate media deals and it just kills you that the SEC $$$$ are well ahead of ACC $$$$. You keep arguing your point and we will keep cashing the big checks.

Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 4/20/17 at 7:23 am to
Not worth it
This post was edited on 4/20/17 at 7:24 am
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