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re: All these 5* RB but.....

Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12218 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:13 pm to
Bo could be deadly in this offense. Use the other RB for most of the 1st 3 quarters. Then start using Bo late in the 3rd and in the 4th. A tired D will have no chance against him.
Posted by thatdude1985
Oxford, AL
Member since Oct 2011
27038 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:25 pm to
Alabama is so stacked...what a wonderful problem to have.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12617 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:27 pm to
Damien Harris is very underrated by our fanbase. He's the only back of the Saban era with over 100 carries to average over 7 yards per carry for a season.

Similar to Fournette, Bo will wow you with his athleticism, physique, and highlights, but there's more to being a halfback than that. People forget Bo struggles with fumbles as well.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25489 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:31 pm to
I just hope to God that Daboll doesnt pull a Sark and builds his whole offensive gameplan around 1 player while we got all these RBs.He didnt know what the hell to do when Bo got hurt.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52655 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:59 pm to
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Damien Harris is very underrated by our fanbase. He's the only back of the Saban era with over 100 carries to average over 7 yards per carry for a season.


I agree. But we are talking about the fanbase that thought that Bo was a scrub until about halfway through the season, and was unsure if Henry was a viable option to replace Yeldon as starting RB.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 7:01 pm
Posted by oneusairman
somewhereville
Member since Apr 2009
568 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

I'm not sure he is a "feature" back. He's very good, but I see him more as a Sproles type back.


Are you kidding me? He was second on the team in ypc and lead in receiving stats for running backs. The dude is real and he is a ingram, Emmit Smith kind of back but faster.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:27 pm
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18615 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:31 pm to
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Bo- 18 carries
Damien- 12 carries
Jacobs- 5 carries/5 catches
Najee- 10 carries


Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5146 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

I'm fine without a featured back. You look back at those dominant Bryant teams from the 70s and it was strictly running back by committee.


Good point. Bama has underutilized a lot of RBs in the Saban era in my opinion. The worst was in 2013 when Nussmeier would never put Fowler, Drake, or Henry on the field. He may have been secretly in love with Yeldon.

Ironically, a lot of Bryant's teams were also quarterback by committee. He would sometimes play as many as four quarterbacks in a single game, hoping one would kickstart the offense.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:48 pm to
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The dude is real and he is a ingram, Emmit Smith kind of back but faster.

Oh good Lord. This is ridiculous. I don't care what his ypc were, he isn't a feature back for us. At least not yet. He is a change of pace type guy.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 10:54 pm to
If Jalen Hurts leads the team in rushing, we've got big problems. I'll be much happier if he leads us in passing yards. Nothing wrong with Jalen getting some carries and scrambles and picking up significant yards, but with this backfield, he'd better not be the leading guy.
Posted by uofarolltide
Member since Sep 2016
1830 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:30 pm to
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He didnt know what the hell to do when Bo got hurt.

In all fairness I don't think anyone knew what to do when Bo got hurt. As soon as he left the field I had a pretty bad feeling that the game was over
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 11:31 pm
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52655 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:26 am to
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In all fairness I don't think anyone knew what to do when Bo got hurt.



It seems like he could've continued with the same game plan, considering we had two other very good backs. But, I'm not a coach so I am probably wrong on that.
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:08 am to
The problem when Bo got hurt is we didn't have another power back. As already mentioned Harris/Jacobs are smaller/shiftier backs that are awesome when they get a hole but pretty ineffective when they have no room. Bo, much like Henry could pick up yards even when hit at the line.

You need both types of backs to wear out defense, but we desperately need another power back to go along with Bo this year(since he can't carry it 30x a game like Henry could). I didn't see enough of BJ to know if he's that type of back...but I suspect the two new backs may fit this mold.

Honestly with this group of backs and Jalen being such a great runner--this should be one of the most prolific running games we've seen at Alabama.

Our WR's ought to be so open with teams crowding the box that Jalen should have tons of opportunities in the passing game if he improves even just a little bit. His problem last year is he couldn't see the open guy half the time, which was pretty frustrating.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
12617 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:09 am to
2013 Yeldon had 207 attempts and averaged 6 yards per carry.

Drake had 92 attempts and averaged 7.5 per carry.
Henry only had 35 attempts (only 1 more than AJ including sacks) and averaged a staggering 10.9 yards per carry.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20759 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 10:50 am to
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Edit:Granted our whole offense did.



That was a combination of Hurts hitting a ceiling, defenses figuring out how to defend him, and Kiffin checking out around November.

If we had committed to the run in the Peach Bowl, we would've beaten Washington by at least two more touchdowns. It still amazes me how Kiffin had to be dragged kicking and screaming into running the ball in certain games. He simply refused to lean on that in the first half of many games.
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 11:19 am to
Correct. When teams figured out Jalen really couldn't pass beyond 10 yards very well and began to stack the box...our offense began to really struggle against teams with good defenses. Were it not for the fact that our defense and special teams scored so often, we might have lost another game or two due to our offensive struggles down the stretch.

The encouraging thing is if Jalen can take the top off the defense by hitting some deep and intermediate routes this year...our offense should be virtually unstoppable. That's a big IF though.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Tittleman's Crest
Member since Feb 2009
52655 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

The problem when Bo got hurt is we didn't have another power back. As already mentioned Harris/Jacobs are smaller/shiftier backs that are awesome when they get a hole but pretty ineffective when they have no room.


Harris is a power back, and he isn't small. He broke a ton of tackles last year. So did Jacobs really.

quote:

That's a big IF though.


Not really. He did just that in quite a few games last season. He definitely needs to improve, but I think there is reason to be optimistic.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 6:46 pm
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:03 pm to
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Harris is a power back, and he isn't small. He broke a ton of tackles last year. So did Jacobs really.

Nah, not really. He may develop into one but his broken tackles last year were second and third level because of good vision and moves. He wasn't trucking DEs at the LOS like Henry and Bo could. I like Harris and he's a fine back, my point is we need another bruiser in the mold of Henry/Bo/Lacy/Richardson who were all in the 230-240 lb range.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 8:17 pm
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20759 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

The encouraging thing is if Jalen can take the top off the defense by hitting some deep and intermediate routes this year...our offense should be virtually unstoppable. That's a big IF though.



Here's the frustrating thing about our offense/playcalling last year:

Look at Hurts' first career TD pass


Its 3rd & Long and Jalen just chunks it so one of our WRs can make a play. Where was that in the last month or so of the season? We didn't even try to stretch the defense. Even if it was an incompletion it would've been worth it and an INT that far down field would've been just as good as JK Scott booming another punt through the endzone for a touchback.
This post was edited on 3/23/17 at 8:30 pm
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37597 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 8:49 pm to
quote:

If Jalen Hurts leads the team in rushing, we've got big problems. I'll be much happier if he leads us in passing yards. Nothing wrong with Jalen getting some carries and scrambles and picking up significant yards, but with this backfield, he'd better not be the leading guy.




yeah...all this
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