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re: Ashawn Robinson is the steal of the draft
Posted on 4/30/16 at 2:38 pm to thatdude1985
Posted on 4/30/16 at 2:38 pm to thatdude1985
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The SEC doesn't have enough good passing teams to judge pass rushers.
Oh ok
And your proof otherwise.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 2:39 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
I agree. I would have taken him in the 1st, especially before I took Nkemdiche.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 4:29 pm to Irons Puppet
Are we talking last year or the upcoming season? Arkansas, OM and State were all top 15 in passing S&P+.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 4:54 pm to imraged
12,15,30 in yardage. Ole Miss was the only real threat with their passing game against decent teams. Remember, all three padded their stats against A&M and AU.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 5:02 pm to Irons Puppet
S&P+ adjusts for strength of opposition amongst other things.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 5:14 pm to imraged
How are those adjustments determined? Never seen that stat, where do you find it?
This post was edited on 4/30/16 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 4/30/16 at 5:26 pm to Irons Puppet
Football Outsiders
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Opponent adjustments: Each team's output for a given category (Success Rate, IsoPPP, and split stats like rushing, passing, redzone, standard downs, passing downs, etc.) is compared to the expected output based upon their opponents. This is a schedule-based adjustment designed to reward tougher schedules and punish weaker ones. In the tables below, the "+" designation is for measures that are adjusted for opponent.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 5:34 pm to Ancient Astronaut
Then why do you pick Chris Jones over him? Chris Jones has shown flashes of being good, but from what I remember he was a little inconsistent. Ashawn was one of the most consistent players that's played for Saban. I believe it's just the fact that he was consistently getting sacks, which is only half of the story. He was great at batting down passes at the line of scrimmage and generally affecting the quarterback. You really don't need him to be a sack artist if you plug him into the right team.
This post was edited on 4/30/16 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 4/30/16 at 5:53 pm to imraged
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quote:Opponent adjustments: Each team's output for a given category (Success Rate, IsoPPP, and split stats like rushing, passing, redzone, standard downs, passing downs, etc.) is compared to the expected output based upon their opponents. This is a schedule-based adjustment designed to reward tougher schedules and punish weaker ones. In the tables below, the "+" designation is for measures that are adjusted for opponent.
shite, no wonder I haven't heard of it. Their formula is as arbitrary and convoluted as the computer rankings in the old BCS. It just proves that gamblers will try any formula and pay for any service that they think gives them an advantage. Garbage time adjustment, ISOPPP ?
I do not think you will see ESPN replacing any of their stats with stuff from this site/
This post was edited on 4/30/16 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 4/30/16 at 6:40 pm to JuiceTerry
do not be deceived ...80% of these gm's are losers ...dk jack about winning football...on teams yr in yr out lose..
Posted on 4/30/16 at 6:42 pm to JuiceTerry
ar blows up lsu big center which blows up big lsu fb which blows up presumptive heisman....but wait wait his 20 yd cone is low 3 10 ths of a second from the top...no we can't take this guy
Posted on 4/30/16 at 6:44 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
NFL is a passing league.. DL who aren't specialized pass rushers don't get drafted all that high. They were overvalued when the 3-4 caught fire in the NFL.. Tyson Jackson was drafted #3 overall and would have been a late 1st round pick otherwise.
Posted on 4/30/16 at 7:09 pm to ConnorTide
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Then why do you pick Chris Jones over him?
Because Jones can play inside and out. He's simply more versatile.
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