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re: 5 SEC LB's land among 15 Butkus semi-finalists....

Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:20 am to
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:20 am to
All I said was being ranked 64th in top assists in him getting defensive stats. Thats true for any defensive player. Its common knowledge for anyone who knows football.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12266 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:00 am to
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All I said was being ranked 64th in top assists in him getting defensive stats. Thats true for any defensive player. Its common knowledge for anyone who knows football.


Anyone that knows football wouldn't have made the ridiculous statements you made. AJ isn't a Butkus Semi finalist because his defense is horrible or because of a bad offense. He's just a very good player. The best LB in the SEC IMO
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 6:31 am to
Holy shite. Anyone with football knowledge know TOP assists in. Defensive stats. If you're a ball control offense, your defense is not in the field a lot, so they don't have a bunch of time on the field to get defensive stats.
Again, this is common knowledge. Its clearly not something you know. Youve been beaten. Take it like the little bitch you are.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 6:32 am to
McKinney is better than AJ, he just has other defensive play makers around him. Unlike AJ.
AJ is 2nd though.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 6:36 am
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 6:39 am to
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AJ isn't a Butkus Semi finalist because his defense is horrible or because of a bad offense. 


I never once said that was the only reason. I said having 63 other teams above you in TOP has helped generate stats and it has. Its called basic math for the last fricking time. Have you seen anything Volvo in here or anyone else saying I'm wrong? No and it's because it's common knowledge. I'm done with this and you've been handled bitch.
Being on the field for 8 minutes let's a defensive player get more stats than a player on the field for 6 minutes. Its basic math. Youre stupid. I'm done
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12266 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 8:38 am to
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Of the other 14 candidates, 6 play on teams with a higher TOP per game than UT. The candidate with the most averaging a little more than 3 minutes per game in TOP. So, really TOP doesn't mean as much as you think. If a player accumulates tackles it's generally due to him flying to the ball.


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You can keep repeating yourself, but it's not gonna make you right. This stat pretty much sums it up. Thanks for playing. Continue to get rolled in the future.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 8:40 am to
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Reggie Ragland -- University of Alabama

My boy.

Glad to see he's doing well
Posted by Tennessee Jed
Mr. SEC Rant
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 10:05 am to
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AJ Johnson is hilariously overrated


Last year I would have agreed.

He's been way better this year. Probably our most improved player.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:26 pm to
I said something that is common knowledge. You repeatedly were wrong in this thread and yet you think you dropped knowledge? Lol

You were wrong about being a top 20 defense. You were wrong about being a top 10 3rd down defense. You were wrong when you said the game had just ended when you said those stats.
Youre wrong when you say a defensive player being on the field for 8 minutes doesn't have more time to.garner defensive stats than a defender that's on the field for 5 minutes.
Youre welcome for the knowledge. Its funny you think TOP has no effect on stats.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:24 pm to
Dude are you upset?
Posted by pivey14
In Your Head
Member since Mar 2012
15445 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:26 pm to
I know this isn't a draft related thread, but B-Mac will be drafted higher than AJ.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:38 pm to
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Youre wrong when you say a defensive player being on the field for 8 minutes doesn't have more time to.garner defensive stats than a defender that's on the field for 5 minutes.
Youre welcome for the knowledge. Its funny you think TOP has no effect on stats.
I'm not sure why you are trying to push TOP stats when you can just as easily look up total offensive plays a defense has played against.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Ancient Rome
Rocky Top
Member since Oct 2014
1584 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:40 pm to
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I know this isn't a draft related thread,


Then sit down, shut the frick up, and eat some

We are trying to watch these girls melt and bitch about who is the toughest rightest warrior on the internet.
Posted by pivey14
In Your Head
Member since Mar 2012
15445 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42620 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

Johnson is better than all of them by a good margin.


Yes, he is. He's been all over the field this year. A leader and a total badass on the field.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12266 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:25 pm to
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5 SEC LB's land among 15 Butkus semi-finalists.... I said something that is common knowledge. You repeatedly were wrong in this thread and yet you think you dropped knowledge? Lol You were wrong about being a top 20 defense. You were wrong about being a top 10 3rd down defense. You were wrong when you said the game had just ended when you said those stats. Youre wrong when you say a defensive player being on the field for 8 minutes doesn't have more time to.garner defensive stats than a defender that's on the field for 5 minutes. Youre welcome for the knowledge. Its funny you think TOP has no effect on stats.


The top 4 tacklers last year played on teams in the top half of the league in Time of Possession. Shouldn't they play on teams that have poor TOP?

Again, I'm not saying a player on the field 8 minutes doesn't have more time to garner more stats than the 5 minute guy. I'm just saying it doesn't affect the stats like you think it does. Proof being the Butkus finalists and the stat above. And it's not the reason AJ has a ton of tackles, like you originally posted.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 2:26 pm to
no welter, list is complete dog shite
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12266 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

The top 4 tacklers last year played on teams in the top half of the league in Time of Possession. Shouldn't they play on teams that have poor TOP? Again, I'm not saying a player on the field 8 minutes doesn't have more time to garner more stats than the 5 minute guy. I'm just saying it doesn't affect the stats like you think it does. Proof being the Butkus finalists and the stat above. And it's not the reason AJ has a ton of tackles, like you originally posted.


That's what I thought
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