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re: Auburn, Alabama, require vaccination all employees.

Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:38 am to
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:38 am to
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but right now unvaccinated people in Ireland are 4 times more likely to test positive with Covid and 18 times more likely to be hospitalized.

That’s their problem, not yours




No, but it could be my problem for me, when I go to Ireland next year after putting it off twice in 2020.
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 11:48 am to
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You do realize that even though a fully vaccinated person can pass Covid to someone else...basic understanding of viral transmission means they are far less likely to do so. 1) They are less likely to contract Covid. Can't pass what you don't have. 2) They are less likely to develop severe Covid which means they won't have the viral loads necessary for transmission. As you mentioned a vaccinated person can catch COVID and pass COVID but it is considerably less likely.
You do realize that we know that you don't keep up with the latest science studies...Oh by the way This Study proves that you are incorrect on #1. #2 is still out there waiting for proof as what little there is more cases of fully vaxed people are ending up in the hospital...



THis is why it's futile and really not worth a damn to get on here and profess our opinion with so called 'correct information'.

For every comment one of us makes, the other finds an article counteracting one's comments or beliefs.

We all are running around in circles here trying to prove our point...including me.

But some of us are going to 'die on that hill'...
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:21 pm to
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We all are running around in circles here trying to prove our point...including me.


Yep, I'm done myself. It's the weekend and I am getting stoked for the game.

Last post in this thread.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:32 pm to
74%

Read the link you suggested and saw the difference...90% eligible adults but 74% overall.
This post was edited on 10/29/21 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:38 pm to
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For every comment one of us makes, the other finds an article counteracting one's comments or beliefs.


Agreed. But it is a message board.

The two counter points aren't using the data correctly.

I don't have time today to investigate the claim of 90% but google Ireland vaccination rate and you can find multiple places that all list them at 74% as of yesterday.

I did read the study on viral transmission and it also says in the study vaccinated people clear the virus more quickly...common since would tell anyone that reduces transmission. It is a single study and there are others to refute the info. The New Hampshire study where we first began to realize vaccinated people could get the virus and transmit it does a good job showing the difference between a vaccinated person without waning immunity vs those with waning immunity. I understand the concern abut the vaccine not preventing fully infection or transmission but its silly to believe based on info available that it doesn't reduce infections and transmission. Perhaps most importantly it significantly reduces hospitalizations. Israel is an example though of once you do reach high rates of vaccination the virus will continue to effect most adversely immune compromised people and elderly with waning immunity.
This post was edited on 10/29/21 at 1:39 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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105494 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:47 pm to
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74%


Did you miss my edit that I added at the end of my post, or did you purposely ignore it?

almost 92% adults 18+ fully vaccinated and jumps to 93% when you add the one dose.

Now this will be my last post in this thread.

edited for higgs_boson
This post was edited on 10/29/21 at 1:57 pm
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:48 pm to
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Did you miss my edit that I added at the end of my post, or did you purposely ignore it?

almost 92% adulys 18+ fully vaccinated and jumps to 93% when you add the one dose.

Now this will be my last post.


I edited my link when I had time to look at the info you posted. 74% population vs 18 and over.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
22456 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 1:50 pm to
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Now this will be my last post.


Hopefully the next post will be about how badly we beat Ole Miss.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10972 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 3:10 pm to
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Ole Miss.
Where they're certain their coach has had every shot known to man !!!!!
Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
2989 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 3:52 pm to
Not in this thread my friend...

Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30914 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 4:03 pm to
I don't think there's much left to debate. The vaccines pretty clearly do little to prevent the spread of the disease though they do seem to be effective at reducing severity of symptoms.

Most reasonable people can acknowledge those two things. Give the former, there is zero reason for vaccine mandates and given the latter zero reason for anyone to be critical of people who do choose to get the vaccine if they see COVID as a threat to themselves.

The problem is vaccine mandates and passports which have no scientific basis and further prove the narrative the government is corrupt as shite and are not following the "science" they hold so dear. For further proof see the fact that they won't acknowledge natural immunity or the fact we are basically at their stated threshold for herd immunity in most areas.
This post was edited on 10/29/21 at 4:06 pm
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
2080 posts
Posted on 10/29/21 at 4:15 pm to
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he problem is vaccine mandates and passports which have no scientific basis and further prove the narrative the government is corrupt
Gold star as you are correct sir. I don't care if you get the vax or not...just don't mandate it and don't censor the data so it looks one sided. I.e. only testing people who choose not to share their status or those who choose not to get the shot for whatever reason. We know that people who have the shots can and do get it. Also, Natural immunity is a thing but isn't being recognized. And if you have the shot but are worried only about the unvaxed person then you have bought into their narrative.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18155 posts
Posted on 11/12/21 at 1:17 pm to
Just an FYI, the deadline for Federal contractor COVID-19 vaccine compliance date changed to Jan. 18
The Biden Administration announced on Nov. 10 that covered federal contractors now have until Jan. 18, 2022,to certify that their employees are fully vaccinated. We are good through the bowl game.
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
19755 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 5:25 am to
Harsin keeping his options open by not getting the jab? Doesn't sound like a bad strategy honestly.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
6784 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:23 am to
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So if Harsin doesn’t want the vaccine he will be fired like Rolovich?


Harsin, that had Covid in August, keeping his options open ...while the courts decide how badly SCOTUS will eventually rule over Biden, telling him to shove it by a score of 9-0

Remember, Obama lost several decisions by SCOTUS by a score of 9-0
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18155 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:05 am to
Biden will lose the OSHA mandate for folks with 100 employees. Already a temporary stay. For contractors (Auburn, Alabama) that count on research and grants that is a very risky and potentially expensive proposition. I know of no pending cases. Having said that the definition for religious exception can be liberally interpreted.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
7114 posts
Posted on 11/13/21 at 12:24 pm to
frick you for telling people to get a shot. Swallow a bullet
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36854 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:57 pm to

Covidtests.gov

Free at home covid tests for those that want to know.

Posted by AUEE13
Member since Oct 2013
628 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:00 pm to
Someone will say it so I'll go ahead and be civil about it. Yes, they aren't actually free because we're paying for them through our taxes.

Also before someone asks, no the Supreme Court delay doesn't affect Harsin. Different issue (one is OSHA, one is federal contracting arrangements).
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 1/17/22 at 12:46 pm to
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Auburn, Alabama, require vaccination all employees.


‘A spirit that not afraid*’

* - unless it involves money then we are afraid

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