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re: So does Bo
Posted on 10/13/21 at 7:14 pm to AUTubaHerd
Posted on 10/13/21 at 7:14 pm to AUTubaHerd
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It is funny how we forget that QB’s can improve. Even just having better linemen and receivers can make an average guy look good. I really sympathize with Bo because he hasn’t had a lot of help all 3 years. If he played with UGA’s supporting cast last weekend I bet he’d have torn it up.
Some of you really need to look at Jason Campbell's career stats and stop making that asinine comparison.
Bo Nix in 2.5 seasons has more career pass attempts than Campbell had in his entire 4 year career at Auburn. Bo's 185 pass attempts this season in just 6 games is actually more than Campbell had in both his Freshman and Sophomore seasons at Auburn.
Jason Campbell was never fundamentally inaccurate - he was a 60%+ passer in literally every season at Auburn. He was a 62.3% passer over his first 3 seasons, the ones that people consider to be "bad". In his Senior season he shot up to 69.6%. He had a higher Pass Efficiency Rating than Bo has posted to date in literally every single one of his seasons. His Sophomore season was actually a 149.2 rate season with a 63% completion rate - thats miles better than anything Bo has done to date (his career best is still his true Freshman 125 rate season).
People talk it up as if Jason Campbell was some horrible player until his Senior season, when in reality he was considerably more effective than Bo Nix has been at every step of the way. He was a guy who just needed more reps - which he wasn't getting a lot of, and a consistent offensive system around him.
The issue with Bo Nix is that he has had a TON of reps already - and he's not really making any strides. His statistical numbers are actually frighteningly consistent over 2.5 seasons now. You say he hasn't had a lot of help over 3 years...didn't he play with two NFL receivers for two of those seasons? Yeah the offense around him has been a mess, but he is part of that in many ways. The fact that guys are dropping passes this season doesn't somehow nullify all of the baffling misses he has also made - and that is where it's hard to see any magical improvement that hasn't happened already by now. The kid has 919 career pass attempts - he's been inaccurate from pass 1 to pass 919. What you see is what he is. More talent around him would help, but that is true for any QB. You say "we need to get better at OL and WR"...why stop there? Why not get better at QB too?
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 10/13/21 at 7:24 pm to metafour
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You say he hasn't had a lot of help over 3 years...didn't he play with two NFL receivers for two of those seasons?
Who? We all know Schwartz was just the go long guy. Who is the other guy?
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People talk it up as if Jason Campbell was some horrible player until his Senior season, when in reality he was considerably more effective than Bo Nix has been at every step of the way.
Different offenses. Totally different offensive talent and depth
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 10/13/21 at 8:19 pm to metafour
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The issue with Bo Nix is that he has had a TON of reps already
And the reason top-tier draft picks go to the Browns and develop psychological complexes and career ending injuries is because they go to teams that don’t block.
I get that Nix isn’t perfect. I don’t expect perfect play at the college level. We just fired a coach because linemen wouldn’t commit to play for him.
Can he get a season’s worth of reps with an average offensive line before we discount him?
Posted on 10/13/21 at 8:23 pm to metafour
Stan White started at Berry from his freshman year. Came to AU and started as a freshman and started for four years. Did OK for three years 60/40 TD/INT ratio. Then figured things out. Bo isn't even putting up even 60/40 TD/INT stats. He doesn't throw picks. He's not Cam Newton but he's not why AU isn't finishing drives for TD's.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 7:12 am to metafour
This is some revisionist history right here. I was always a huge Jason Campbell fan but he/we were underachieving big time until 2004.
Jason Campbell played almost his entire career with two top 5 NFL draft running backs, multiple NFL receivers, and in 2004 2 future pro bowl offensive linemen.
Jason Campbell played almost his entire career with two top 5 NFL draft running backs, multiple NFL receivers, and in 2004 2 future pro bowl offensive linemen.
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