re: Per Sports Illustrated, the CFP expansion to 12 teams is in peril

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But you are wanting it both ways. you want to talk about how bad those teams are, but want them included in a playoff

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I've actually said, repeatedly, I think we should have more teams in it because teams in the 5-16 range have proven year in and year out that they can beat top 4 teams. Literally the opposite of talking about how bad they are

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Okay I'm done

There is a 4 team playoff. Someone deserves the 4th spot, whether you think so or not.

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That is my entire point. There are years there are not even 4 teams that can put up a decent game, much less 12.

I mean, you admit the games would be bad and many of the match ups would be bad and lopsided, yet you want to expand the playoffs.

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Why even limit it to 4, why did anybody deserve to be in the playoff last year except Bama?

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I thought there was 3 viable teams last year. Ohio State, Clemson and Alabama.

And therein lies my point. In week 16, right before they picked the Playoff teams....Coastal Carolina was #12 in the country. They would have made the playoffs.
#1? Alabama. I'm sure MILLIONS would have tuned in to see that game.

I really don't get your obsession that no G5 teams should be able to play in the Playoff because of the horror of this mythical Bama/Coastal matchup that you don't want to see. You know what I want? I want Bama to destroy Coastal or whomever and prove it on the field but to let Coastal to get that shot if they earned it.

If there is a 16 Team Playoff there is probably 1 G5 Team. MAYBE 2. There are probably 4 if not 5 SEC Teams. Then you have the other 4 Conf Champs and several more likely P5 At Large teams. Will the 1/16 and 2/15 games probably be a blowout? Yes, but they may not be because in CFB 16's beat 1's sometimes. Still that is 1 out of 8 games in the opening weekend. Maybe you can go and take a nap and watch the other 7 games or if it is just too far beneath you then you can wait until Week 2 to watch. I just don't get your obsession here. Cinderella stories are awesome, who doesn't want to see an underdog get a shot? Who doesn't want to see the Champion play 4 games to prove it instead of 2?

Right now CFB is getting to the point where the gap between the haves and have nots is becoming the Grand Canyon and having 4 Teams in the Playoff is fueling that further. It also means that for lots of very good teams that had an early loss they are done and have nothing of meaning to play for. Bowl games don't have star players because they are sitting out for the NFL. It sucks.

I also HATE the politics of the Selection Committee. When there are 4 teams it is insanely political who gets in and who doesn't in most years. Now that would still happen no matter the number to an extent but arguing over a 17 team getting left out vs a 5 is not remotely the same, the 17 has a very small chance of winning but the 5 absolutely could. A good example was 2012. A&M started slow with JFF and dropped 2 early games. Then they beat Bama and are destroying everyone at the end of the year. Bama ends up playing ND and blowing them out for the NC. Would A&M have won? Probably not but who knows, that team was absolutely on fire to end the season and had shown they were at least capable of beating Bama. I can think of years where LSU, UGA, UF and others were also red hot to end the year but also were out because of an early loss.

As it stands before the season starts you have a limited number of teams with a realistic chance of the Playoff and those teams do all they can to stack the deck further in their favor. That means fewer and fewer compelling matchups and the best recruits going to a limited number of teams.

BTW, I think longterm A&M is fine either way. We have the resources to compete and we are in the SECW. If we win we are in. That said it sucks when you see Clemson losing to UGA and now looking at a scenario where they can win out through a slate of unranked teams the rest of the year and make the Playoff of just 4 teams. How is that good for the game?

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I've actually said, repeatedly, I think we should have more teams in it because teams in the 5-16 range have proven year in and year out that they can beat top 4 teams.

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What chance do you honestly believe they would have of sinning the championship. You know as well as I do that they might get an upset, but they would get slaughtered in their next game.

We aren't getting anywhere. You don't seem to mind that in your scenario you would literally get one of Coastal Carolina, Memphis, or similar team. Shoot, you want them in the playoffs and I don't even like to see them in a NY6 game.

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What chance do you honestly believe they would have of sinning the championship. You know as well as I do that they might get an upset, but they would get slaughtered in their next game.

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That's not the way America works, and this has been said throughout it's history only to have been proven wrong. There is no other sport that has 130 and only 4 of them make the playoffs. The numbers are insane.

Don't tell me you don't think the #5 team could never win if they were included? Or the #9 team if it goes to 8?

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There is no other sport that has 130 and only 4 of them make the playoffs.

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There is no other sport that has 130 participants, that I know of.

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Don't tell me you don't think the #5 team could never win if they were included? Or the #9 team if it goes to 8?

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I have already said I could see going to 6. I don't think #7 or #8 would win it, though. There is just too much of a gap between the teams...for better o worse.

You can't compare football to any other sport...or for that matter College football to Pro. They are just totally different animals.
And in my opinion, the other sports have watered down their playoffs by allowing too many teams in.

And personally? I think it would be a shame for a great team to get upset by a much lesser team because of some fluke. I mean, if Alabama got upset by Cincinnati last year, would that have proven that Cincinnati had a better team? no. It would show that flukes happen and the best team in the country was kept from wearing the crown. I like to think teams typically get beat by teams of similar talent levels. We know that doesn't hold true, but as a whole it does. We can all point to examples where teams get beat by a much less talented team, but typically they do not.

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I've actually said, repeatedly, I think we should have more teams in it because teams in the 5-16 range have proven year in and year out that they can beat top 4 teams. Literally the opposite of talking about how bad they are

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No offense, but didn't you say this:
The only games the big boys have to lose even if we went to a 16 team playoff are the cupcake filler games.

Why would anybody want "filler" games in the playoffs?

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No offense, but didn't you say this:
The only games the big boys have to lose even if we went to a 16 team playoff are the cupcake filler games.

Why would anybody want "filler" games in the playoffs?

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You think an FCS tune up game is the equivalent of a 1 seed playing a 16 seed in a playoff?

Ole Miss is ranked 15 or 16 right now and there are people saying they could upset Bama in a week