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Probably beating a dead horse, but what was Gus/Malzahn thinking?

Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted by internetdad
Member since Mar 2021
607 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:36 pm
You win a title with Cam, which probably 35% of the country could have done with how good he was.

You get to another title game with Nick Marshal...

What’s the reoccurring theme? A run first/super athletic QB and a read option system.

Why not continue that system? You always have a good RB at Auburn and generally a good run blocking OL... why the hell do you try to go to a pro style system with no WR production and QBs with mediocre accuracy?

This post was edited on 6/14/21 at 1:40 pm
Posted by C Nite
The Dove Shack
Member since Dec 2020
2066 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:39 pm to
The lucky miracles ended. His success ended. /thread
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28306 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

and generally a good run blocking OL



That was the beginning of his downfall. He had an OL that couldn't run block or pass protect. The end.
Posted by Quicksilver
Poker Room
Member since Jan 2013
10751 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:40 pm to
Always wondered the same. He signed a few guys that fit the mold like Malik Willis but those guys could never crack the lineup.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
24589 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:41 pm to
You could make the argument that 2017 Auburn with a semi-mobile QB was about as good as 2013 Auburn


Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79415 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:41 pm to
Gus cares more about being thought a genius on offense than he does winning football games

Think of a socialist college student telling you with tears in his eyes that it just hasn't been tried in its purest form yet and that you have to believe him, it'll work, he promises

That's Gus Malzahn and his offense
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28306 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:45 pm to
Gus' biggest problem is that he didn't evolve. He is very stubborn and narrow-minded. If it worked, it was a thing of beauty. If it didn't work, he couldn't make any adjustments that would help.

He seems like good people. I wish him well moving forward. I hope he learned from his experience at Auburn. You must constantly evolve in the game of football or you are going backwards.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
7629 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:46 pm to
Rules changed and he couldn’t go as fast anymore. Umpires stand over the ball now. Plus, he couldn’t recruit O-linemen or keep an Oline coach for any consistency. He changed the SEC but wouldn’t keep adapting.
Posted by 14caratgoldjones
Uniontown, Al
Member since Aug 2009
1325 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:49 pm to
I think he changed because that style of offense doesn’t carry over into the Pro Style system. Guys want a shot at the NFL and college is just a stepping stone. Yes, Cam could do it but he’s the exception, not the rule.

To recruit the top QB’s, which you have to do in order to win even at the college level, guys want a system that will carry them to the next level. Just my two cents.
Posted by SadUCFKnight
Member since Jun 2008
2624 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:54 pm to
When the playoffs expand Gus is going on a revenge tour and it starts in Alabama.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
31011 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 1:56 pm to
You forgot "absurd good luck" and "only one soul to sell"
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 2:08 pm to
AU had some other talent around Cam. Also Gus had a system that very few people know how to stop.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 2:11 pm to
Losing the HUNH to the substitution rule changes was the single biggest blow to his offensive strategy. Our route trees were never sophisticated and didn't have to be because with the substitution rules before they were changed to allow the defense to substitute if the offense does, you could have fairly simple plays exploit a tired defense much easier.

The change in offensive strategy to a more pro style QB was I think an adaptation and just trying to survive once his biggest strategic advantage was gone, but it clearly didn't work and is frankly a baffling decision. Once the talent on OL dried up once recruiting got harder because the offense was so stale, it was a wrap.

Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 2:33 pm to
People figure schemes out in a couple of seasons.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 3:47 pm to
Auburn will regret that firing
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
8628 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 3:51 pm to
Rule changes and horrible OL classes.
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
19561 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

The lucky miracles ended


This.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30291 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 8:17 pm to
Gus was stubborn to a fault. He refused to evolve and for the life of him, he couldn’t trust a single OC to run anything different/better. When Gus started evaluating and recruiting his own OLinemen things went downhill.
Posted by BrotherDawg84
Member since Dec 2020
3103 posts
Posted on 6/14/21 at 11:10 pm to
Sometimes players make coaches look competent. Sometimes coaches make players look competent.
Posted by Bama2020
Member since Sep 2020
541 posts
Posted on 6/15/21 at 4:20 am to
He needs qbs that are already developed.
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