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re: #notncaaproperty...what a bunch of pansies
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:05 am to HongDong
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:05 am to HongDong
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The loop holes in paying college athletes are ENDLESS...
You think cheating is bad now! Open this door and just wait.
Exactly. It would be the absolute end of college sports. It's akin to opening Pandora's Box
Every loophole imaginable would be used and exploited to the fullest.
Would college sports really be enjoyable knowing the kids are making millions of dollars, and pulling up to the games in Rolls Royces? I mean, it would be absolutely ridiculous. At that point why even have college sports at all? Just go pro.
And then think about what that would do to high school sports when an offer from a big program could be worth upwards of a million dollars.
Money corrupts.
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 9:09 am
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Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:05 am to au4you
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These kids are the backbone of a billion dollar industry and they are supposed to be satisfied with free meals and sharing a two bed apartment?
the people who work in the drive through are the backbone of Mcdonalds, you expect them to be happy with $15 per hour? Should they get TV money, corporate perks, stock options?
These kids get well over a half a million dollars of value. but lets be real about it.
If the schools have to start paying these kids, then the athletes are going to start paying for medical services, meals, travel, housing, and probably coaching. Fair is fair, they cant get all the perks and money and pay nothing....
not to mention they will have to pay taxes on the money they receive....once they break down those numbers, I believe they will realize how good they have it
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 9:06 am
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:06 am to au4you
Every time this subject comes up, the people who were NEVER college athletes seem to speak loudest on how good college athletes have it???
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:07 am to TheCheshireHog
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I wasn’t aware a full-ride scholarship and the shite load of other perks that they get that the average student doesn’t get was all free
This isn't really about the average student. It more comparing them to other students on full scholarship. They can also get free rooms, food, perks, etc. However, these scholarship students don't have some arbitrary cap on making money outside of school. They can use their skills to make money by being a tutor, interning in the summer, etc.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:09 am to pvilleguru
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They can use their skills to make money by being a tutor, interning in the summer, etc.
So can college football players
(in theory)
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:10 am to TheCheshireHog
quote:Lol. Student athletes are not the typical student. Their schedules are packed full with practice, games, and traveling. Their work life balance is extreme compared to sophomore Kyle majoring in business. These perks are nothing compared to what is being made by the NCAA and the schools. Let’s not pay the actual players but make sure we pay glorified PE teachers like the Jeremy Pruitts of the world 4 million dollar salaries to make sure “football do good this season!”
I wasn’t aware a full-ride scholarship and the shite load of other perks that they get that the average student doesn’t get was all free. You learn something new every day around here.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:11 am to Adam Banks
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These kids are making more by playing in the ncaa than anywhere else or else they wouldn’t go.
They go because they have to, or go play professionally overseas. The NBA requires you to be a year removed from high school to play in the NBA, so if you grew in the US you have to go to college for at least a year if you don't want to leave the country before playing in the NBA.
If college is such a great deal for players, then why don't top foreign players, who don't have to funnel through the arcane "amateur" system before playing in the NBA, come play college ball before going to the NBA?
Sure every team has a backup or maybe even a decent starter who has no NBA prospects from overseas, but why didn't Luka Doncic go play for K at Duke or Calipari at Kentucky? Why didn't Dirk Nowitzki? They could've gotten free education and exposure!
The answer is that it is a terrible proposition for NBA caliber players. Americans wouldn't do it either if the rules didn't force them to if they don't want to leave the country.
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 9:15 am
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:11 am to CrimsonClover
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So can college football players
How can they use their skills and name that they get their scholarship for to make money?
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:11 am to pvilleguru
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. However, these scholarship students don't have some arbitrary cap on making money outside of school.
Ncaa athletes can still have a job but they do have to show up.......just like everyone else who has a job.
Yes athletics takes up significant amount of time compared to a kid on an academic scholarship but that’s just the stipulations of the scholarship. I presume you weren’t on one but for people such as myself you had to maintain a certain GPA. I also didn’t get preferential admission scheduling healthcare nutrition food tutors and on and on and on
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:11 am to HongDong
quote:I can't even fathom how it would be managed and monitored on an individual student-athlete basis. Then how do you monitor the peripheral people related and involved with each student-athlete?
The loop holes in paying college athletes are ENDLESS...
You think cheating is bad now! Open this door and just wait.
If Momma/Uncle/Auntie/Grandma/Daddy/Legal Guardian, etc. all have their hands out now, imagine what would happen when the gates are open and become legal to pay the athlete. Yikes!
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:14 am to TeddyWestside
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They go because they have to, or go play professionally overseas. The NBA requires you to be a year removed from high school to play in the NBA, so if you grew in the US you have to go to college for at least a year if you don't want to leave the country before playing in the NBA.
Johnathan kuminga. The fact that you don’t know his name proves the point that the ncaa showcases skill and is an investment towards future endorsements
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college is such a great deal for players, then why don't top foreign players, who don't have to funnel through the arcane "amateur" system before playing in the NBA, come play college ball before going to the NBA?
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This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 9:15 am
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:17 am to Adam Banks
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Johnathan kuminga
Is about to be a lottery pick in the upcoming NBA draft, and is getting paid now. What am I missing?
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:18 am to Adam Banks
quote:This kid is making $500k, great healthcare through the organization, will be top 10 pick, and probably already has endorsements. You’re clueless.
Johnathan kuminga. The fact that you don’t know his name proves the point that the ncaa showcases skill and is an investment towards future endorsements
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:18 am to Adam Banks
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I presume you weren’t on one but for people such as myself you had to maintain a certain GPA. I also didn’t get preferential admission scheduling healthcare nutrition food tutors and on and on and on
I was on scholarship. I absolutely got preferential admission scheduling. There were also levels to how much money you got for food. You could also get laptops, etc.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:20 am to Pvt Hudson
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As a parent that just paid full-pop for a kid through college, I can tell you that a free education, meals, health care and perks are absolutely of value.
Not to mention the free tv exposure to future employers.
Working for “free” is a lie.
Sure wish I had it as good as these athletes when I went through college.
I understand they are seeing the money being raked in by the schools. I don't know how much the NCAA keeps. And I understand they think they are being 'used'.
But they just don't see or understand the value of what the ARE getting.
Don't like the deal? Skip college and go to work.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:20 am to CrimsonClover
I think the best thing to do is allow High school kids to go to the NFL/NBA straight out of high school. I think they should have that option.
I know this will not apply to the kids that need more time to develop/ more coaching but it is the best option.
I also believe in football they should get the option to declare at the end of any year.
I know this will not apply to the kids that need more time to develop/ more coaching but it is the best option.
I also believe in football they should get the option to declare at the end of any year.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:20 am to au4you
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probably already has endorsements.
I guarantee that Cade Cunningham and other top 5 picks endorsements will dwarf his
And your comment about his salary is killing your argument. There are obviously options for these kids if they really don’t want to be “ncaa property” and their skills are in demand.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:23 am to TeddyWestside
You sound like a "poke wussy". Gnome sayin'?
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:25 am to TeddyWestside
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Is about to be a lottery pick in the upcoming NBA draft, and is getting paid now. What am I missing?
So you admit there is another way open to those who are skilled enough.
They will have to sacrifice endorsements though given the average fan won’t know them
Posted on 3/26/21 at 9:27 am to Ant4Bama
I believe in markets and people getting paid as much as they can based off of their knowledge and skills. If you don't believe in that, then Cuba is not far away.
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