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Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:30 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:30 am to Draconian Sanctions
Are we talking full strength UF that went toe to toe with bama?
If so cincy isn’t bearing that team. If UF was in the playoffs they wouldn’t have had opt outs.
If so cincy isn’t bearing that team. If UF was in the playoffs they wouldn’t have had opt outs.
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:31 am to Kk74
The only real answer is to lower number of scholarships to about 70. That is the only real answer to getting more parody in CFB.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:31 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Technically Oregon didn’t win their division so I went with USC
Yea I know, weird as shite this year
But technically they did win the pac 12 championship.
Alot of bama fans are going to be mad at our proposals and call us jeleous, not understanding we benifit from the current system too. Just like uga and even Florida. But in the end, it's killing the fricking sport big time.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:32 am to RopeMagic
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That is the only real answer to getting more parody in CFB.
Hey man this is no laughing matter.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:33 am to Kk74
Expanding the playoffs will force independent teams to join a conference. Maybe ND could fill a schedule still, but Army, Navy, Liberty, BYU will have a tough time filling a season with quality games when teams only get two OOC games.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:33 am to Big4SALTbro
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Out of those UGA & OU would be interesting and maybe Iowa state vs Aggie would be as well.
All 8 of them would be much more hyped than any regular bowl game though, which is part of the problem.
10 years ago all 4 major bowls plus 2-3 others were hyped to the moon by the media, and more teams got more coverage through the season. Hell I remember the 2005 LSU-Miami game in the freaking Peach Bowl was discussed heavily for weeks.
Now that we have a playoff that’s all that gets discussed and as such college football coverage has dropped. Once a team is out of playoff contention they are deemed irrelevant by the media and sometimes now their own players. This is all very bad for the sport.
There’s no putting the genie back in that bottle, the only way to address it is playoff expansion.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 8:37 am
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:34 am to Kk74
NFL needs a minor league and college needs to be 4 year institutions. People are opting out because they don't give a shite about the school they just want to get paid. Most of the ones doing this never gave a shite about the free education either. Thats fine. I don't blame them at all. They are forced to go through a corrupt and stupid system to get payed to play ball.
We need to let professional caliber players or players who have no interest in education pursue their goal directly out of high school. Forcing football players through college is stupid and the quitting will only getting worse until we stop doing it.
We need to let professional caliber players or players who have no interest in education pursue their goal directly out of high school. Forcing football players through college is stupid and the quitting will only getting worse until we stop doing it.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:35 am to lsu777
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Alot of bama fans are going to be mad at our proposals and call us jeleous
Not sure how they can say that considering we won the thing just last year
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:36 am to Draconian Sanctions
Honestly the players quitting is what is killing the sport more than anything. Perhaps work with the NFL on making it 3 years to 2 years and some form of payment besides the nice scholarship and other shite they get.
I will agree that expanding the playoffs would stem some of the quitting for now. I just don’t want this to turn into college basketball where it goes from best team wins to who had the best path.
I do feel like football would be less subject to upsets via style clash, the big thing would be injuries. Imagine LSU last year clear cut best ever, smashes someone in the early round but they put a hit on Burrow like Clemson did. Now you have wounded in playoff LSU.
Sure that can happen now or in any game but you up the chances with moving to 16 and now dilute the title.
I will agree that expanding the playoffs would stem some of the quitting for now. I just don’t want this to turn into college basketball where it goes from best team wins to who had the best path.
I do feel like football would be less subject to upsets via style clash, the big thing would be injuries. Imagine LSU last year clear cut best ever, smashes someone in the early round but they put a hit on Burrow like Clemson did. Now you have wounded in playoff LSU.
Sure that can happen now or in any game but you up the chances with moving to 16 and now dilute the title.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:36 am to Adam Banks
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That doesn’t increase parity though.
You can't have parity in college football. There is no draft, there is no free agency, and one or two schools can horde all of the best high school players in recruiting. The Top 5 schools in recruiting for 2021 have 20 five stars and 68 four stars between them right now. Alabama has seven five stars all by themselves. I'm sorry to say it but there will never be parity when you have schools hauling in that kind of talent year in and year out.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:37 am to Kk74
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:38 am to Big4SALTbro
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I just don’t want this to turn into college basketball where it goes from best team wins to who had the best path.
I mean yeah, though there is some of that now. It kind of is what it is though and unfortunately a trade off that’s unavoidable.
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Imagine LSU last year clear cut best ever, smashes someone in the early round but they put a hit on Burrow like Clemson did.
That happened anyway, A&M put one of the dirtiest hits I’ve ever seen on a QB on the opening drive of our game with them last year.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:39 am to RollTide1987
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You can't have parity in college football. There is no draft, there is no free agency, and one or two schools can horde all of the best high school players in recruiting. The Top 5 schools in recruiting for 2021 have 20 five stars and 68 four stars between them right now. Alabama has seven five stars all by themselves. I'm sorry to say it but there will never be parity when you have schools hauling in that kind of talent year in and year out.
Sure you can. All it takes is a rule to make it so. You can't have a salary cap, but you could have a "talent cap".
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:41 am to RollTide1987
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You can't have parity in college football. There is no draft, there is no free agency, and one or two schools can horde all of the best high school players in recruiting.
Yeah to me parity isn’t the goal as much as access. Right now most schools and even wide swaths of the country feel like they have no chance to even get a shot at a championship. That’s what has to be addressed.
Like I’ve said, that existed in that period between everyone getting put on national tv and the advent of the playoff.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:41 am to Lonnie Utah
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You can't have a salary cap, but you could have a "talent cap".
They're not going to assign a "talent cap" using an arbitrary (and subjective) talent grading system that is run by a private entity(s).
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:43 am to lsu777
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Preserves the bowl system with them being at the beginning and allows a ton of flexibility in scheduling.
This idea intrigues me. Instead of the current Kick-off Classics, have bowl games start off the season. Would we keep the Big 4-5 Bowl games at the end? Interesting.
Conferences are NOT going to reduce games, unless you can make up the money some other way. Reducing to 10 games would cost universities too much money. THE ANSWER IS MONEY. I don't feel like the college football brokers care about parity or fairness, or even a great product. I'm being cynical and truly believe they only care about the bottom line.
If a scenario can be created were there is more money to be made, then they will do it.
I do like a lot of the ideas on from the thread.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:44 am to Lonnie Utah
You can't control who a school signs, you will lose that battle, but you can control the total number. Make it 70, do that and you have a lot more parity. It trickles down.
Also you have to have some rule changes on play. The rules shifting more and more to offense is killing the sport snd reduces the chances at upsets.
Adopt the 1 yard ol down field rule.
For pass interference, it's only once ball is in the air or you could go back to more than 5 yards down field.
Interference is a spot foul or if a pass 15 yards or longer, it's a 15 yards.
Fix the targeting. Flagrant launching should be ejection, otherwise just a 15 yard penalty.
Reviews have a 60s limit.
Total game time has to be cut down to 3 hours if at all possible too.
Also you have to have some rule changes on play. The rules shifting more and more to offense is killing the sport snd reduces the chances at upsets.
Adopt the 1 yard ol down field rule.
For pass interference, it's only once ball is in the air or you could go back to more than 5 yards down field.
Interference is a spot foul or if a pass 15 yards or longer, it's a 15 yards.
Fix the targeting. Flagrant launching should be ejection, otherwise just a 15 yard penalty.
Reviews have a 60s limit.
Total game time has to be cut down to 3 hours if at all possible too.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:44 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Right now most schools and even wide swaths of the country feel like they have no chance to even get a shot at a championship. That’s what has to be addressed.
That has ALWAYS been the case. From 1936-1991, there were - at best - four or five schools with a legitimate shot at the national championship on New Years Day. When the Bowl Coalition/Alliance/Championship Series came along starting in 1992, that number was reduced to two. Now we are back up to four. What has changed?
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:45 am to bstew3006
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Then shortly after, 16 team playoff.
I’m extremely against this. Completely waters down the best regular season in sports.
No more Armageddon intensity to games like Georgia/Florida, Bama/Auburn, etc. because it’s just about seeding.
People who think college football needs to be more like the NFL are missing the point. It’s popular for different reasons than the NFL.
Here’s my analogy, Beyoncé is very successful, Sturgill Simpson is very successful. Sturgill isn’t going to reach Beyoncé levels of success by sounding more like her, people like him for different things.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 8:45 am to VADawg
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Also, I would be an advocate of making admissions standards the same for athletes as they are for everyone else. Kids who are too stupid to spell their own names and don't care about college should not be playing college football.
While I love this idea, it would turn into a disparate impact/race discrimination nightmare.
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