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re: Bo Nix is just not very good.

Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:09 am to
Posted by MrAUTigers
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Posted on 10/11/20 at 11:09 am to
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Care to go on a trip with me to an officiating board? Specifically an NCAA Officiating board? You are also debating an Official that has 25 years under the belt including Semi Pro ball using NFL Rules.

The fumble killed a legal spike.



You must not be a very good official. IF you were a good official, you would know......the fumble kills the spike. It turns the spike into an "intentional grounding". Intentional grounding is a spot foul/loss of down. AGAIN, you are losing one to two yards in penalty and loss of down.

ETA also AGAIN, Bo fumbled the snap on a spike play in the first or second game. I don't remember which. It was a spot foul. That time he didn't turn around and throw it down. Fumbling the snap turns it into a penalty play on a spike........but what exactly are you losing other than a yard or two?
This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 11:17 am
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3599 posts
Posted on 10/11/20 at 2:01 pm to
There seems to be a very prominent inability to separate Bo Nix from his recruiting ranking by many people in this fanbase. I'm seeing people post about how he'd be "elite", "incredible", under certain circumstances...and I'm just not sure what player some of you are watching. Ask yourself this: if he was a 3-star recruit and he was making the same plays/throws that you have seen to date, would you have any inclination to label his upside as "elite"? Honestly? I posted this already in another thread, but regardless of any decline in his play from the "Malzahn Effect" (which I've been pioneering for years now - he absolutely butchers quarterbacks) or OL ineptitude, Box Nix is literally an average SEC starting QB from a TALENT perspective. Can anybody point out even one elite trait he possesses from a QB "toolset" perspective? His arm strength and "zip" is about average, his accuracy and ball placement is average at best (if that). Does he have a particularly quick release? Not really; its about average. Are his mechanics elite? No, they're below average. The only tool I can see as legitimately above-average is his athleticism at the position, but that comes with below-average size and non-elite sense for carrying the football so he's not ever going to be a "running QB". I guess we can label his "intangibles" or whatever as above-average as well. Combine all of those together and you have an average SEC quarterback. Now, does he possess "talent"? Of course, but I expect any quarterback that starts games for a program of this caliber to have talent. Bo Nix looks no more talented than a guy like Brandon Cox was, and I'd be willing to be that not a single person here would describe Cox as possessing "elite talent".

Sometimes I really wonder how much football outside of Auburn some of you guys watch or are exposed to. If you guys want to get a sense of "talent" at the quarterback position; do yourself a favor and turn on the Buffalo Bills game on Tuesday and watch Josh Allen throw the football. I keep seeing people hype up rudimentary Bo Nix completions as if they're indicative of his 5-star ranking or "elite talent". His best passes are literally passes that you'd expect any NFL quarterback to make without fail...and those plays by him are mixed in with all sorts plays wherein he's throwing inaccurate balls on short dink/dunk passes or just generally throwing suboptimally placed passes.

This post was edited on 10/11/20 at 2:20 pm
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