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re: Games holding up the SEC from going to a 9 team yearly schedule.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 12:04 pm to meansonny
Posted on 11/22/18 at 12:04 pm to meansonny
Bro, I agree that UGA has done well scheduling. Bama has done a
shitty job of scheduling home OOC games. We just want better schedules. Id like to be able to visit Athens more than once a decade. I think we agree on a lot. IF a 9 game schedule came at the expense of a quality home and home OOC game, absolutely id be against it. It doesnt though
shitty job of scheduling home OOC games. We just want better schedules. Id like to be able to visit Athens more than once a decade. I think we agree on a lot. IF a 9 game schedule came at the expense of a quality home and home OOC game, absolutely id be against it. It doesnt though
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Posted on 11/22/18 at 12:05 pm to jawjaTiger
Maybe you and Big Brother could try playing 2 power 5 OOC games once in a while?
Posted on 11/22/18 at 12:08 pm to Judah Mann
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OK. Replace ND with an SEC team. 95% chance your strength of schedule takes a hit though.
Or replace Arkansas State or Murray State with an SEC team and keep ND....Why does the 9th SEC team have to replace the best OOC matchup??
Posted on 11/22/18 at 12:25 pm to DirtyDawg
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If they fire him and try to move away from the triple option, they'll suck for 2-3 years, but they could definitely rise back to relevance with the right coach.
Here's the thing though, Georgia Tech doesn't care to be an elite program in college football anymore. They are more than happy with just being competitive in games. So long as they make a bowl, it's a successful season for them. A season like 1990 is probably never happening again for them.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 12:25 pm to meansonny
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I went a little too far.
The radio broadcast will still be present for both teams.
But that is 7 games of TV that fall out of the networks (less football for the SEC split every year). Potentially 7 fewer games in home stadiums. Revenue for restaurants, hotels, retail, parking that disappear.
Each SEC would give up a crappy low attendance low TV ratings FCS game for a high-attendance high TV rating SEC vs SEC game and would only lose one home game every other year. So, like I said, it seems reasobable that replacing 14 SEC vs FCS home games with 14 SEC vs SEC home-away games would boost attendance and TV revenues by more than enough to offset one less home game every other year, considering that two years' FCS rent-a-win payouts would be eliminated.
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And having UGA play Arkansas one more time won't make up that lost revenue.
You chose the currently weakest SEC-West team out of UGA's 9-game cross-division rotatation for your invalid argument.
UGA cross-division rotation
2019: vs aTm, at AU, at MS
2020: at UA , vs AU, vs AR
2021: vs LSU, at AU, at OM
2022: at aTm, vs AU, vs MS
2023: vs UA , at AU, at AR
2024: at LSU, vs AU, vs OM
This post was edited on 11/22/18 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 11/22/18 at 12:32 pm to TidalSurge1
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Each SEC is giving up a crappy low attendance low TV ratings FCS game for a high-attendance high TV rating SEC vs SEC game and is only losing a home game every other year. So, like I said, it seems reasobable that replacing 14 SEC vs FCS home games with 14 SEC vs SEC home-away games would boost attendance and TV revenues by more than enough to offset one less home game every other year, considering that two years' FCS rent-a-win payouts would be eliminated
Be honest.
Is Bama attendance struggling?
Posted on 11/22/18 at 12:33 pm to meansonny
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Is Bama attendance struggling?
We are in the student section. Those little shits are flakier than ever.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 12:41 pm to ReauxlTide222
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But I don't understand the UGA GT game. GT is a complete joke and shows zero want to improve moving forward.
Yet there GaTech sits as the reigning MNC in the state of Georgia...
Hmmmmm
Posted on 11/22/18 at 12:47 pm to bamafan1001
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Bro, I agree that UGA has done well scheduling. Bama has done a
shitty job of scheduling home OOC games. We just want better schedules. Id like to be able to visit Athens more than once a decade. I think we agree on a lot. IF a 9 game schedule came at the expense of a quality home and home OOC game, absolutely id be against it. It doesnt though
Cheers.
I'd like to have an honest conversation with you on these topics (cupcakes, 9 conference, OOC scheduling). I can be more civil in a different forum (ignoring trolls/redundant arguments).
It might be easiest to tackle 1 issue at a time per thread.
In your opinion... what is the biggest issue regarding scheduling (cupcakes, not seeing the conference fast enough, quality OOC scheduling)?
Posted on 11/22/18 at 12:48 pm to RollTide1987
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Is Bama attendance struggling?
We are in the student section. Those little shits are flakier than ever.
Those seats are already bought. The university isn't missing any revenue from ticket sales. Just butts in seats.
Do the students get excited about playing Arkansas? Vandy? Mizzou?
Posted on 11/22/18 at 12:55 pm to meansonny
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Be honest. Is Bama attendance struggling?
Attendance isn't good at the FCS game. And an abnormally high number of attendees at that game don't spend on hotels, restaurants, etc.
Be honest. Are you scared for UGA to play Bama, LSU, MS and ATM much more often? (We're all well aware the Arky and OM programs are down right now.)
This post was edited on 11/22/18 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 11/22/18 at 1:00 pm to mckibaj
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Stupid thread is stupid.
If the SEC goes to 9 games, Alabama, Auburn, aTm, and LSU are still going to play a major power 5 opponent OOC, so it will be equal for everyone.
No it's not. Georgia and Florida already schedule 2 out of conference Power 5 games a year. Add in an extra SEC game and it's a brutal schedule.
Who were Georgia and Florida's second Power 5 OOC games against this year?
Don't feel bad, though...four people actually upvoted you, so you're no more ignorant than they are.
This post was edited on 11/22/18 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 11/22/18 at 1:01 pm to TidalSurge1
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Be honest. Are you scared for UGA to have to play Bama, LSU, MS and ATM much more often? (We're all well aware the Arky and OM programs are down right now.)
Honest question. Do you think UGA is scared of scheduling?
We purposefully scheduled @ Arizona State the week before playing Bama at home.
We purposely schedule 3 power 5 OOC games in the same season.
Hell no. We aren't scared of the West.
But people want better games. And better is better than more of the same.
People complain about our GT rivalry. Well you know what? Many years, that is our 2nd toughest OOC game. On occassion, it is our 3rd toughest scheduled OOC game.
Better scheduling can be controlled with our own AD without a blind rotation of West opponents.
If you want to play through the East faster, than don't pretend like you have some long standing rivalry with Arkansas, A&M, or Miss State. Don't pretend like your fans are dieing to see Vandy, Kentucky, Mizzou, and South Carolina. We can play some teams less in order to play some teams more. That is a simpler solution than pissing in the wind of what could be great OOC scheduling.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 1:04 pm to meansonny
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Better scheduling can be controlled with our own AD without a blind rotation of West opponents.
Our best OOC games this season are home and homes.
Enjoy your neutral field against Duke next year. You don't think your AD can do better?
Peay, MTSU, UMass, GaTech A 9-game cross-division rotation isn't "blind" but apparently you think some of us are blind. UGA only has one OOC home and home (GT) in 2018. You don't think your AD can do better? Did he have trouble getting a quality P5 OOC opponent for 2018?
Bama's AD did have trouble getting a better OOC opponent for 2018 and 2019 -- had to settle for L'ville and Duke -- teams that are usually about the same level as GT. Another reason a 9th SEC game makes sense. It'd be great to have one of UGA, UF or USCe on our schedule every year instead of an FCS team.
This post was edited on 11/22/18 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 11/22/18 at 1:04 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Who were Georgia and Florida's second Power 5 OOC games against this year?
Our best OOC games this season are home and homes.
Enjoy your neutral field against Duke next year.
You don't think your AD can do better?
Posted on 11/22/18 at 1:11 pm to meansonny
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In your opinion... what is the biggest issue regarding scheduling (cupcakes, not seeing the conference fast enough, quality OOC scheduling)?
If I had to absolutely pick one thing to change and that was it, itd be the OOC schedule. I think Bama should schedule an absolute minimum of two P5 OOC teams per season, preferably home and home.
Some might say “well some FCS/G5 games are just as good as playing a Purdue, Boston College, NC State”
Id respond with at least these teams have fanbases to interact with and would be interesting road trips, etc. More cross competition between the P5 conferences is a good thing
Posted on 11/22/18 at 1:26 pm to jawjaTiger
Why does the SEC want to cannibalize itself by playing 9 conf games. The 8 they are playing now are more than they have ever played. I would prefer to insist on playing 2 OOC P5 teams along with the 8 SEC games. But the SEC will not likely do either because they want the money made by playing 3 OOC home games and one neutral site or h-h. Other confs, except the Big 10, can't do that because they can't sell enough tickets for Charlotte, UMass, Citadel, etc.
Other confs want the SEC to go to 9 games so they will further beat each other up, while they can laugh at the benefit of playing their own soft conf schedule. It also reduces the "opportunity" for having to play an SEC program.
The SEC would be stupid to go to a 9 game conf schedule.
Other confs want the SEC to go to 9 games so they will further beat each other up, while they can laugh at the benefit of playing their own soft conf schedule. It also reduces the "opportunity" for having to play an SEC program.
The SEC would be stupid to go to a 9 game conf schedule.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 4:01 pm to TidalSurge1
We've had matchups with Michigan and Ohio State that the other team pulled out of. I know there were others. Not sure what led to this years OOC other than the shite arse odd year SEC schedule we have (thanks to Auburn getting B2 home games after last expansion). I think it was at our request that the ND return home game was scheduled for 2019.
With that said, no... UGA has proven time and time again that we have no issues with scheduling true home/home with quality teams. We also play kickoff games against P5 as well.
9 conference games doesn't net is that more often UGA/Bama or UGA/LSU. If we were getting that, you'd probably see a lot more 'yeas'. It means more Miss St, Arky, aTm, Ole Miss...
Look at the last decade... Those teams have been about on par with Ga Tech and the other ACC schools being downgraded in this thread.
So essentially, we already have a game on the schedule relatively similar to 3/5 of the more frequent matchups.
There is little benefit to the league in terms of perception (see: Pac12 and B1G snubbed in favor of Bama last year due primarily to conference losses). So long as the SEC is viewed as the premier conference, 9 games solely benefits everyone ELSE. Look at the Pac12 again this year... B1G may be in the same boat if Michigan loses to tOSU.
I'm busy cooking a few things right now, but so far, none of your claims hold water. If you want to talk OOC schedules you can't really take a single year view as a fair assessment. Plenty of times the schools just don't work. But UGA has and will continue to schedule 2 and sometimes 3 P5 opponents OOC (Texas, Clemson, Ga Tech upcoming).
With that said, no... UGA has proven time and time again that we have no issues with scheduling true home/home with quality teams. We also play kickoff games against P5 as well.
9 conference games doesn't net is that more often UGA/Bama or UGA/LSU. If we were getting that, you'd probably see a lot more 'yeas'. It means more Miss St, Arky, aTm, Ole Miss...
Look at the last decade... Those teams have been about on par with Ga Tech and the other ACC schools being downgraded in this thread.
So essentially, we already have a game on the schedule relatively similar to 3/5 of the more frequent matchups.
There is little benefit to the league in terms of perception (see: Pac12 and B1G snubbed in favor of Bama last year due primarily to conference losses). So long as the SEC is viewed as the premier conference, 9 games solely benefits everyone ELSE. Look at the Pac12 again this year... B1G may be in the same boat if Michigan loses to tOSU.
I'm busy cooking a few things right now, but so far, none of your claims hold water. If you want to talk OOC schedules you can't really take a single year view as a fair assessment. Plenty of times the schools just don't work. But UGA has and will continue to schedule 2 and sometimes 3 P5 opponents OOC (Texas, Clemson, Ga Tech upcoming).
Posted on 11/22/18 at 4:08 pm to jawjaTiger
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9 team yearly schedule
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allowing everyone in the SEC to actually play each other in the SEC on a yearly basis:
14 SEC Teams
9 games
I kind of want to make fun of you, but that's actually pretty good for Auburn math.
Posted on 11/22/18 at 4:10 pm to jawjaTiger
How are 14 teams gonna play 13 other teams with a 9 game SEC schedule you stupid frick? Let's just go to an 13 game round robin and eliminate the championship matchup. We can play 1 more game than every other conference.
This post was edited on 11/22/18 at 4:13 pm
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