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re: $126,935 is the average annual cost of a Student-Athlete at Alabama.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 5:03 pm to meansonny
Posted on 1/24/18 at 5:03 pm to meansonny
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If you are setting a value on these kids as athletes, you are fooling yourself because that value is only relevant to the level of football that they play in.
First of all, the competition and skills increases as they move up each level. The market value for a HS player may be a good lay after the game Friday night. Are fans going to pay $125 per ticket or is TV going to put major production cost in showing these games ? No because the level of skills has establish the market value for these players as low.
As the system culls the poorer athletes at the next level (College Football), the market value of these player increase due to increased demand for TV and Ticket revenue. Then the culling really kicks in at the highest level which results in the largest market value for the players.
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The entire idea of market value is BS because it is only relevant to who they play. That is why the NFL doesn't want to babysit teenagers. The same for the CFL.
Tell that to the NBA or MLB.
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And they choose to because it covers education. Covers room and board. Covers healthcare. They get stipends for cost of attending. They get stipends for living off campus. They can get other grants and subsidies reserved for college students. Unlike any college student outside of the military academ
Tell us what these stipends pay for and then tell us how much is left over after all the costs are added up. Then compare those cost to Universities profit from Football and Basketball (P5). How many of these kids are sending some of that money home to help their families ? Yes, these kids have it made.
Every one of these Players that will not play Pro Sports would be better off joining the Military and taking advantage of the benefits they give Serviceman today (Education, room and Board, Healthcare and a stipend). The risk for war are going to be about the same for the longterm risks of CTE before it is over. At least the VA/DOD acknowledges those risks and tries to compensate for them.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 5:04 pm
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Posted on 1/24/18 at 5:12 pm to Irons Puppet
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Tell that to the NBA or MLB.
Both sports are markedly different physically than football. That said, there are 30 MLB teams with 25 man rosters (before the 40 man post-season roster). That's 750 MLB players. How many were teenagers? It will likely be less than 1%.
NBA has a requirement minimum of 13 players on a roster (12 active and 1 inactive). The average is 14 players. 30 teams making it 420 players in NBA. I'd bet less than 3% are teenagers.
I get where you're trying to go, but it isn't comparable in football to basketball & baseball.
Posted on 1/24/18 at 6:17 pm to Irons Puppet
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As the system culls the poorer athletes at the next level (College Football), the market value of these player increase due to increased demand for TV and Ticket revenue. Then the culling really kicks in at the highest level which results in the largest market value for the players.
That is wrong for 2 reasons.
Free market only pays NFL, CFL, and semi-pro football players. There is no free market value for middle school, high school (if a school is sleeping with the hs qb, we have serious issues), or college. The free market means that middle school to college players have to compete against NFL, CFL, and semi pro football players for jobs. You should be able to know that the market value is zero or close to zero (semi pro) for these student athletes.
Second... you are confusing the market value of college football with the market value of college football players. When you remove the college, there is no TV market. There is an extreme loyalty to colleges. High school players don't qualify for a college. College players get kicked out. Junior college ratings with these same players do not follow the college ratings because of school loyalty. There is no doubt that the loyalty is to the school. If UGA signs the #1 recruiting class or #40 recruiting class, I am a UGA fan. Former players and other alumni will still be UGA fans regardless of the recruits.
quote:nobody wants to babysit teenagers. Both the NBA and MLB have rules specifically designed to limit and reduce teenagers in their employment. The gains do not equal the hassles for a free market approach.
Tell that to the NBA or MLB.
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Tell us what these stipends pay
You are either 80 years old or ignorant to college life. Off campus living can give a rent stipend of $1200 ($1200 a normal student doesn't get). Split rent 3 ways and the player nets an $800 profit to spend as he pleases. Most athletes can find 2 people to pay $600 a piece in order to be the wingman for a football player. Many times, the student athlete can pocket the full rent stipend with roommates.
Auburn kids are getting an additional $500 per month cost of attending stipend. They can pay for whatever they need/want to (cell phone plans, car insurance). This is money that normal students do not get.
quote:that's the beautiful thing about a stipend that doesn't have a bill attached to it. They can send money home if they choose. Put these kids in semi-pro football and they have to pay for their own food, their own housing, and their own healthcare. There is no discretionary money for what the free market will pay these kids.
How many of these kids are sending some of that money home to help their families ?
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Every one of these Players that will not play Pro Sports would be better off joining the Military
This is such a blind, arbitrary statement. I don't know what to do with it. The military is great for some. College is great for others. You must not use your college education to be so dismissive of a college education. That may be typical for Aubies.
My reference of the military academies is that they pay every student (not student athletes like the ncaa permits with these stipends) to attend their college. Their kids are not rich. But they aren't the typical broke student either. They are getting a young taste of earning a living.
This post was edited on 1/24/18 at 6:30 pm
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