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re: Nick Chubb just broke a 90 yard TD run against Steelers
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:21 am to fibonaccisquared
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:21 am to fibonaccisquared
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including a game during a god damned monsoon against the Alabama team that Fournette managed 54 yards on 26 carries against...
I would just like to interject here............
Chubb had a 83 yard TD run down 38-3 in the 4th qtr of that game. Outside of that run he ran 19 times for 63 yards.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 11:26 am
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:25 am to JayDeerTay84
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Fact, Chubb has not been the best SEC RB in any year he has been at UGA.
2014 - Payne
Seriously? Payne had 66 more yards on 100 more carries!
Chubb had 14 TD and Payne had 13.
How was Payne the better back?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:31 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Chubb had a 83 yard TD run down 38-3 in the 4th qtr of that game. Outside of that run he ran 19 times for 63 yards.
You still had 9 of the 11 starters in. Had you emptied the bench I could see your point.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:32 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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You still had 9 of the 11 starters in. Had you emptied the bench I could see your point.
I'm not saying it shouldn't count but come on. It was 5 TD game with 10 minutes left. It's context that should be included in this type of discussion, especially when directly comparing it to the other guys performance against Alabama.
This post was edited on 10/10/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:33 am to dawgdayafternoon
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Who the frick is Payne and who did he play for?
Cameron Artis-Payne-Auburn
He looked and saw Artis-Payne had the most yards. He out gained Chubb by 66 yards while carrying the ball 80 or 90 more times. Chubb had almost 2 yards a carry better....had 14 TD to Artis-Paynes 13....Chubb was better in almost every single category in 2014.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:38 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I would just like to interject here............
Chubb had a 83 yard TD run down 38-3 in the 4th qtr of that game. Outside of that run he ran 19 times for 63 yards.
Sure. And that's fair. I wouldn't have called it a stellar game for Chubb by any means, but we generally struggled to do anything right that day. Even if we discount his largest run, it was still more yards on fewer carries, albeit not by a huge margin... 3.3 YPC vs. 2.1... 57% higher output per carry.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:40 am to fibonaccisquared
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Even if we discount his largest run, it was still more yards on fewer carries, albeit not by a huge margin... 3.3 YPC vs. 2.1... 57% higher output per carry.
Agreed, all things considered (weather, our defense, UGA's abysmal QB situation) he had an above average day without the late run.
I don't remember all the specifics but I do remember the fact that we did not stonewall him for nothing very often.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:48 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Agreed, all things considered (weather, our defense, UGA's abysmal QB situation) he had an above average day without the late run.
I don't remember all the specifics but I do remember the fact that we did not stonewall him for nothing very often.
Yeah... that game turned so quickly too. Looking back, it's pretty clear that we were never going to win it, but the score got lopsided in a hurry. The weather just made it even less fun.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 11:52 am to fibonaccisquared
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Yeah... that game turned so quickly too. Looking back, it's pretty clear that we were never going to win it, but the score got lopsided in a hurry. The weather just made it even less fun.
Once we blocked the punt and then got the Brice Ramsey special the house kind of caved in.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 12:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I'm not saying it shouldn't count but come on. It was 5 TD game with 10 minutes left. It's context that should be included in this type of discussion, especially when directly comparing it to the other guys performance against Alabama.
I understand that but to me it doesn't take away from the run since you had most of the starters in. And judging from the way UGA plays I doubt Bama players were let up even if it was garbage time.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:13 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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and then got the Brice Ramsey special the house kind of caved in.
I ran the numbers after the App State game, something like 8% of his pass attempts have been INTs... it's really quite staggering.
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Once we blocked the punt
Even if UGA is to continue the success we've had this season and wind up in Atlanta at the end of the season, this is probably the thing I'm most worried about. Not specifically punts, but just turnovers in general... Alabama seems to have made a habit out of really penalizing teams for turnovers and short fields... The avg starting field differential for you guys this season (one of the S&P+ metrics) is just ludicrous.
Can't afford to do you guys any favors on field position for sure.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:17 pm to fibonaccisquared
Yep, it's really hard to beat us if you can't get lots of explosive plays, because our defense, kick coverage and punting game ensure that the majority of the time the opponent will be left with a long field (which leads to, as you noted, our very high field position ranking in S&P+). On top of that, we don't turn the ball over much.
It's probably the part of our program over the last 3 years that has improved the most that most people don't really talk about. We used to routinely give up lots of field position on kick coverage. That never happens anymore. It's a huge deal.
It's probably the part of our program over the last 3 years that has improved the most that most people don't really talk about. We used to routinely give up lots of field position on kick coverage. That never happens anymore. It's a huge deal.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
this thread needs to be anchored and yall should start a new thread with the topic at hand
Posted on 10/10/17 at 1:18 pm to fibonaccisquared
Also - big fan of that chart format and breakout. I'm guessing you post those on the UGA board but you should throw those up over here too. Like it a lot.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 9:49 pm to RB10
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Do keep in mind we probably shouldn't include 2016 for either of them since we've agreed that neither Fournette nor Chubb were playing at 100% in that season.
Great point. Lets get back to comparing 2014 and the start of 2015.
Posted on 10/10/17 at 9:50 pm to DawgsLife
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Seriously? Payne had 66 more yards on 100 more carries! Chubb had 14 TD and Payne had 13. How was Payne the better back?
He wasnt close to as good as Chubb was.
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