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re: Alex Wood 10-0 with a 1.67 ERA ,Andrelton Simmons .290 9HR'S 40 RBI and gold glover,
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:56 pm to volfan30
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:56 pm to volfan30
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Simmons' defense would be very valuable with a young staff. All comes down to Newcomb and I guess Swanson but I would definitely lean Simmons over Swanson straight up. He is probably the best defender OAT at SS and is somewhere around average with the bat. A consistent 3-4 WAR SS is very valuable.
The Kimbrel/Upton and Wood/Peraza deals were both horrendous.
Swanson could also play 3B and fill a big hole there as well. A Simmons, Swanson, Albies, Freddie infield would look pretty awesome next year.
And yeah, those two deals were beyond horrible.
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:47 am to auyushu
Let me also mention that Simmons might have been helped by going over to AL parks offensively. Not knocking his defense but it's quite possible that AL parks are helping him.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 10:39 pm to SECFan1995
The Braves will win a World Series in the next 5 years and the people who questioned the rebuild will look very foolish, and deny that they were ever not in favor of it.
Hell, were in striking distance right now, mid-rebuild. If Teheran remembered how talented he is and we didn't deal with Bartolo, we'd be even closer to the division lead. Things could be MUCH worse than going .500 in the middle of a rebuild. Ask the Astros and Royals and Phillies and dozens of other teams who have rebuilt and lost 100+ games in a season lately.
Hell, were in striking distance right now, mid-rebuild. If Teheran remembered how talented he is and we didn't deal with Bartolo, we'd be even closer to the division lead. Things could be MUCH worse than going .500 in the middle of a rebuild. Ask the Astros and Royals and Phillies and dozens of other teams who have rebuilt and lost 100+ games in a season lately.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:24 am to atlgator
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If Teheran remembered how talented he is
The problem here is Teheran has always been a fly ball pitcher. That was fine in Turner Field but SunTrust is a launching pad.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 3:49 pm to VADawg
He needs to either adjust or us trade him while he is most valuable.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 5:52 pm to atlgator
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He needs to either adjust or us trade him while he is most valuable.
He isn't at his most valuable right now. If he heats up down the stretch, then maybe at the end of the season
Posted on 6/30/17 at 2:52 pm to RD Dawg
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Do we have a future Alex Wood,Craig Kimbrell or Simmons
A future swing reliever/starter? Yea, I think we have about 15 guys who could possibly fill that role.
Of course there isn't another identifiable Kimbrel. He was/is one of the all-time greats.
Another Simmons? I feel pretty good about Dansby, so considering we also have Newcomb on top of that I'm very much ok with it. Not to mention we also have Albies. And Maitan. So yes, I think we'll figure that one out. Simba is now 28 years old, meaning that he probably has 1-2 more years of elite defensive play before he starts gradually losing his best asset. By 2019 he will be a "good" defender with at BEST a league average bat. So, we would have wasted his best years with a bad team and instead now have what appears to be a #2-#4 starter who will be entering his prime when we are improving in 2019.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 6/30/17 at 2:55 pm to VADawg
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The problem here is Teheran has always been a fly ball pitcher. That was fine in Turner Field but SunTrust is a launching pad.
Teheran would be bad at Turner Field in 2017. His control is awful both in and out of the strikezone, he has no feel and he's not striking out as many guys.
Probably the most frustrating guy on this roster.
Posted on 7/1/17 at 6:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Y'all still wanna send Dansby down?
Posted on 7/7/17 at 10:11 am to VADawg
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Unfortunately, it seems like 2019 at the earliest is when we might start seeing a turnaround.
Seems like we are "starting to see a turnaround" already.
July 6, 2016 (through 85 games): 28-57 / Last NL East / 22.5 games back
July 6, 2017 (through 84 games): 41-43 / 2nd NL East / 8.5 games back
Washington is great, but I think even the casual fan is starting to see the Braves' plan and how it is supposed to work. Atlanta did not have the pieces or money for a 2 year turnaround. But now the flexibility with the current roster and farm system is really good. There are a lot of options going forward. My hope is the owners see that with the groundwork laid we are in a spot where a couple of strategic higher price moves have a great chance of putting this team in real contention.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 11:22 am to elposter
My one concern this year is that we sell pieces like BP, Kemp, Markakis, or even Jamie for prospects and the winning drops off in the second half.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 11:41 am to Jasonmann
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My one concern this year is that we sell pieces like BP, Kemp, Markakis, or even Jamie for prospects and the winning drops off in the second half.
Yeah the Braves are probably in a more interesting situation than they might have expected where they are within striking distance of a playoff spot half way through the year begging the question of whether they are aggressive sellers at the trade deadline or whether they try and see what this roster does the rest of the year. I still won't be surprised if we see one more round of strategic selling for the Braves for hopefully more almost major league ready prospects.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:41 pm to Jasonmann
quote:That may happen, but it may not.
My one concern this year is that we sell pieces like BP, Kemp, Markakis, or even Jamie for prospects and the winning drops off in the second half.
When discussing the Freeman to 3rd move a couple of weeks ago, either Chip or Joe said Coppy had said the farm system was replenished and that the team wouldn't be looking to move guys just to stack prospects - hence a feeling that Adams would not be moved at the deadline.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 5:40 pm to PJinAtl
Alex Wood is an All Star. 
Posted on 7/9/17 at 9:23 am to devils1854
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, he is a great defender, but his hitting has always been suspect. I wouldnt trust his power either. His SLG this year is .407 and ISO is .133. He hasnt had stats that high in 4 years.
Umm don't look now but he's up to .290,9,38
Up to .437 slugging and .432 OBP.
Like I said earlier he has amazing instincts and his
baseball IQ is off the charts.To think he wouldn't
improve on the offensive side of his game is bazaar.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 11:36 pm to RD Dawg
Lol his OBP is not in the .400s and never will be with his approach at the plate.
It was probably a mistake to trade him though.
It was probably a mistake to trade him though.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:06 am to volfan30
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Lol his OBP is not in the .400s and never will be with his approach at the plate.
My bad...you are correct. Still up to .341
Not sure anyone in the Braves organization had
much confidence in his offensive capabilities.
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It was probably a mistake to trade him though.
I kinda get the whole rebuilding/cost cutting thing
the Braves did but I think in some instances it was purely motivated by cost cutting and a need to rebuild the farm system asap.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 10:08 am to RD Dawg
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I kinda get the whole rebuilding/cost cutting thing the Braves did but I think in some instances it was purely motivated by cost cutting and a need to rebuild the farm system asap.
They traded him for Sean Newcomb. You can disagree with the trade from a value standpoint, but they got a young lefty who throws 96 and is in the MLB already. That's about as much of a "rebuild the farm system ASAP" move as you can make.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:27 am to SummerOfGeorge
Yes,I think we all know who we got for Andrelton and of all the trades mentioned we perhaps received the most value but Cappolella still undervalued Simmons and per Chris Domino they thought he was never going to improve on his offense or his tendencies with the bat.
Yea I also get that everybody loves young lefties with mid 90's stuff.
Yea I also get that everybody loves young lefties with mid 90's stuff.
Posted on 7/10/17 at 11:38 am to RD Dawg
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Yes,I think we all know who we got for Andrelton and of all the trades mentioned we perhaps received the most value but Cappolella still undervalued Simmons and per Chris Domino they thought he was never going to improve on his offense or his tendencies with the bat. Yea I also get that everybody loves young lefties with mid 90's stuff.
Like I said, I'm not arguing for or against the trade, I'm just saying that the decision was based on value of the players not trying to cut costs.
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