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Running Game: Shula vs Saban
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:07 am
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:07 am
Everyone complained about Shula's offense including me. Darby up the middle was tough to watch. Was it a talent difference only or do you think there is a certain characteristic to Shula's offense that just made it not work?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:50 am to South Alabama Tide
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Was it a talent difference
c'mon man...
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:51 am to South Alabama Tide
Compare the offensive lines to now. And yes, there was a talent disparity and lack of creativity compared to now.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:20 am to South Alabama Tide
Well, talent, yes, also running the same play in every similar situation.
JUMBO PACKAGE OFF TACKLE
PLAY ACTION SLIP PASS TO THE FLAT
RINSE REPEAT
JUMBO PACKAGE OFF TACKLE
PLAY ACTION SLIP PASS TO THE FLAT
RINSE REPEAT
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 10:21 am
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:26 am to South Alabama Tide
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Was it a talent difference only or do you think there is a certain characteristic to Shula's offense that just made it not work?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:39 am to South Alabama Tide
Seriously? It's talent, discipline, and everything else under the sun.
My favorite anecdote of the changing of regime was the look of the sideline after a game. Under Shula there was trash and disgarded athletic materials everywhere. Under Saban it was clean, as if a mass of humanity hadn't just spent four hours covering the sideline.
My favorite anecdote of the changing of regime was the look of the sideline after a game. Under Shula there was trash and disgarded athletic materials everywhere. Under Saban it was clean, as if a mass of humanity hadn't just spent four hours covering the sideline.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:49 am to South Alabama Tide
It was a very predictable offense.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:44 am to CapstoneGrad06
I still remember Simeon Castille screaming in Shulas face on the sideline when we kicked a field goal inside the 5 in 2006 after 3 straight jumbo package fails.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:31 pm to South Alabama Tide
Why even try to compare.
Shula was so out of his depth as the head coach. I choose to just remember him as a good QB.
Shula was so out of his depth as the head coach. I choose to just remember him as a good QB.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:46 pm to South Alabama Tide
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Darby up the middle was tough to watch.
I guess no one remembers "Darby up the middle" when we had talent and experience on the offensive line. It actually worked and he rushed for more than 1,000 yards in back-to-back seasons.
The talent was mediocre and inexperienced on the offensive line in '06. And Darby was hobbled by a lingering injury. Hence why "Darby up the middle" was so tough to watch that season.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:59 pm to RollTide1987
Darby and Ray Hudson were both really good backs at Alabama, not to the level we're used to now, but those guys could play
Posted on 2/23/17 at 6:40 pm to RollTide1987
Meh, the only competent offenses we had in 4 years of Mike Shula was the pre-Prothro injury in 2005. Everything else was inefficient and incredibly unexplosive.
Darby got 1,000 yards from 30 to 30. Then we'd get to 4th and 2 and kick field goals.
Darby got 1,000 yards from 30 to 30. Then we'd get to 4th and 2 and kick field goals.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 6:41 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:00 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Meh, the only competent offenses we had in 4 years of Mike Shula was the pre-Prothro injury in 2005. Everything else was inefficient and incredibly unexplosive.
The '04 offense was solid until Brody Croyle went down with a knee injury in the third quarter against Western Carolina. The injury bug was bad that season. The only reason why Darby ended up playing was because we lost our first and second stringers to injury.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:02 pm to South Alabama Tide
Grant vs Avery offense. Who wins?
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:13 pm to RollTide1987
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The only reason why Darby ended up playing was because we lost our first and second stringers to injury.
Oh I remember. I spent significant time in the basement getting my balls hazed off after every awful agonizing loss.
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The '04 offense was solid until Brody Croyle went down with a knee injury in the third quarter against Western Carolina
It was solid against Utah State, Ole Miss and Western Carolina. Would it have been better? Probably, but those games against bad teams don't mean much.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 7:14 pm to South Alabama Tide
Two words. Chris Capps
Posted on 2/23/17 at 9:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Would it have been better? Probably
It's more than just probably. Virtually the same team went 10-2 the very next year.
Posted on 2/24/17 at 6:57 am to RollTide1987
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Virtually the same team went 10-2 the very next year.
Well yea, but they were all a year older and the defense carried that team on their back for 9 games (and, as I said in another thread, may be the least appreciated and most unheralded group in Alabama history given their performance and subsequent insane NFL success). The offense was atrocious after Prothro broke his leg.
Literally every game post Florida was a freaking offensive grindhouse.
This post was edited on 2/24/17 at 6:59 am
Posted on 2/24/17 at 7:47 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:That or the matador.
The turnstile!
Kinda stands there while an angry bull runs past
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