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re: Show me your trophies for the last 20 years.

Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 9:35 pm to
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but the legitimacy of the national championship


So bring the only undefeated team in the nation after playing in the SEC does not make for a legit national title?
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 10:00 pm to
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So you think the BCS was never tampered with? You think it was just an honest no human interference computer program? I highly doubt it.


Not at all. I specifically said it WAS being tampered with...

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BCS system(minus the human polls)...at the latter end of it was being subverted by human polls to satisfy the networks, if the formula was pure it would still be the best option.


I wouldnt be surprised if this was the goal all along. The computers did too good a job and teams the conferences and networks didnt want ranked were getting in so they started lobbying for more human intervention in the formula which defies logic to the point that the system fails and then the conferences and networks can cry that we need a playoff system which "settles it on the field", nevermind that the teams selected for the playoff system are being selected by a super cool and totally unbiased group of college football super fans. What could possibly go wrong there?

This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 10:01 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37948 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:14 pm to
In

Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:16 pm to
Three things basically killed the bcs. 2004 an undefeated SEC Champ(Auburn) got left out. Then mid-majors(BSU, TCU, Utah etc..) started going undefeated. The final blow was the LSU/Bama rematch. That one pissed off some folks. I am sure things were tampered with, and humans corruption was still there, since the human polls were 2/3rds of the bcs poll. I wouldn't mind if the bcs formula was used to determine the 4 teams. The thing is the computers won't give a shite about conference champions or what conference you play in. They only cared about who you beat, and who beat you.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 11:17 pm
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:20 pm to
Eventually someone will get wrongfully left out of the 4 team system and within 3 years of that we will have an 8 team playoff. If you are on the cusp of 8th place and you get left out, it's safe to say you wouldn't win an 8 team tournament. Problem solved.

Only issue we have is moving to a 16 game season. We could just eliminate FCS games from bowl eligibility and move to an 11 game regular season. Have a consolation game for teams that didn't make their conference championship so everyone still gets 12 plus a bowl if you are eligible. So 1st in each division plays for the championship. 2nd in each division plays just because. and so on.
This post was edited on 10/18/16 at 11:22 pm
Posted by NashBamaFan
Nashville
Member since Mar 2011
2948 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:22 pm to
Barely
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20723 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:26 pm to
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Theres only one trophy that matters, and Ohio State and Alabama have the only 2 made.




It's an ugly trophy. I prefer the Waterford crystal one given to champions in the 1 vs. 2 era.
Posted by CrimsonBuc
Member since Jun 2016
254 posts
Posted on 10/18/16 at 11:54 pm to
Your 2010 Natty is tainted.
So is your 1957 Natty.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:16 am to
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
30688 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:10 am to
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Eventually someone will get wrongfully left out of the 4 team system and within 3 years of that we will have an 8 team playoff. If you are on the cusp of 8th place and you get left out, it's safe to say you wouldn't win an 8 team tournament. Problem solved.


Eventually, maybe BSU this year. The thing is, the other "bcs busters" are now power 5. The P5 conference champions are getting the benefit of the doubt. It will take a 2007 type year, where everybody has 2 losses to create absolute chaos. In my 35 years of watching college ball, i have only seen one 2 loss national champion, at least that I can remember. The system was implemented to keep the regular season as meaningful as it was before playoffs. The 8 team playoffs allows two loss teams in, and that is what the powers that be don't want. This much is clear.
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 6:14 am
Posted by swinetime
Member since Apr 2013
4509 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:16 am to
If we were as insecure as auburn we could pay for players too. We're still gonna kick your add in your own backyard and no amount of insecure threads you start is going to stop that
Posted by 4Ghost
Member since Sep 2016
8526 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:20 am to
I LIKE Del Mar. Great Scenery! Yeah, the hosses are nice also!
This post was edited on 10/19/16 at 6:21 am
Posted by MykTide
Member since Jul 2012
25520 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 6:35 am to
Found one of the aggies favorite trophy.

Posted by AUTiger45
The Ham
Member since Oct 2013
4043 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 8:48 am to
A&M wont like this thread. they treat the past 20 years kinda like we treat 2012.
Posted by LC412000
Any location where a plane flies
Member since Mar 2004
16673 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 8:49 am to
Could show you MY trophy but I would get banned
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3699 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:11 pm to
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That Natty isn't helping you beat us at your place :)


True....but it has done wonders in College Station.
Posted by AggieDub14
Oil Baron
Member since Oct 2015
14624 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:27 pm to
Why not let a few 2 loss teams in the playoff? If an 8 seed beats a 1 seed, then the 1 seed doesn't deserve the natty. Pretty simple logic.
Posted by ThaKaptin
The Sultan of Swag
Member since Nov 2010
21741 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:27 pm to
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So you think the BCS was never tampered with?


Oh, youre one of those..... I'm sorry.

Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
96350 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:28 pm to


Not my fault OP didn't specify football only
Posted by AUTiger45
The Ham
Member since Oct 2013
4043 posts
Posted on 10/19/16 at 12:30 pm to
how appropriate its in the shape of the star of texas
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