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re: Who is Alabama's biggest rival?
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:30 am to BHMKyle
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:30 am to BHMKyle
Some of what makes it most important is when it is played. Having the last game of the season against a true rival in the same conference division gives it much more meaning. UT is a game that could be repeated in December but Auburn is one chance to win or lose the division. All of the Bama fans I know consider Auburn the biggest rival mostly because of the implications the game has carried for the recent history of the game. If UT becomes relevant again I could see it being a 50/50 split like UGA and Bama are for Auburn.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:30 am to jlovel7
Yeah, AU is an eastern team. AU and Tech, espically back in the day, were like minded in terms of academics. The first chance we get to bounce back east, we will. We would drop the IB without thinking about it.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:31 am to AUCE05
Can we both move to the East? Move Vandy and Mizzou to the west.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:33 am to pvilleguru
Let's dewit. I'll call Bham this afternoon.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:35 am to BHMKyle
That's an awful lot of words to make yourself feel smart and important. Next time you get an itch to tell everyone how Alabama fans feel, don't scratch.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:35 am to BHMKyle
Well there's a lot of comments ITT and OTB that suggest that VOLS are Bamas most important rival sooooo make of that what you will.
Or don't, idc
Or don't, idc
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:36 am to Patton
Lots of words and meaningless stats is kind of Kyles thing
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:36 am to AUCE05
I just have no desire to take more trips to Mississippi and Texas.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:36 am to 14&Counting
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Tennessee however has always been good with the exception of the last few years.
not really, they have had several periods of mediocrity, like everyone.
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Mal Moore was on the record as saying the TSIO would be played before the Iron Bowl.
do you have this quote? I thought it was just we will be keeping the TSIO, no mention of AU
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:39 am to pvilleguru
Personally, I would rather have the old 10 team SEC, and we all play each other. But I guess I am in the minority.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:39 am to NYCAuburn
quote:Do you feel belittled that in my opinion UT is Bama's biggest rival?
NYCAuburn
I think I'd hate it if you feel belittled because of one Bammer's opinion.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:39 am to BHMKyle
Auburn is an in state rival. It is more about bragging rights. It is about going to work, church, or school, and having the satisfaction of saying,"Oh yeah, who won?" It is intense at time for some fans. There was good reason they cancelled the game for like 40 years. It starts a lot of arguments which can and has led to fights..
UT is the game where Bama sees how tough they really are. It is a mid season match up between two conference traditional powers.It is often a slobberknocker. The way it is now, is the way it is supposed to be.(UT has had a rough decade, I know, but I go back several decades). This is the game where each team finds out just how good they really are. To compare these rivalries to me as a Bama fan is to compare apples and oranges.
UT is the game where Bama sees how tough they really are. It is a mid season match up between two conference traditional powers.It is often a slobberknocker. The way it is now, is the way it is supposed to be.(UT has had a rough decade, I know, but I go back several decades). This is the game where each team finds out just how good they really are. To compare these rivalries to me as a Bama fan is to compare apples and oranges.
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 11:41 am
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:42 am to AUCE05
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Personally, I would rather have the old 10 team SEC, and we all play each other. But I guess I am in the minority.
I agree. It's the best way to find a true champion.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:42 am to RT1941
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Do you feel belittled that in my opinion UT is Bama's biggest rival?
I think I'd hate it if you feel belittled because of one Bammer's opinion.
no but I do find it funny sometimes and the thread from the other day had the opposite side. A bama fan got rustled/belittled because an Auburn fan said UGA was a bigger rival
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:44 am to viceman
quote:BINGO!
UT is the game where Bama sees how tough they really are. It is a mid season match up between two conference traditional powers.It is often a slobberknocker. The way it is now, is the way it is supposed to be.(UT has had a rough decade, I know, but I go back several decades). This is the game where each team finds out just how good they really are. To compare these rivalries to me as a Bama fan is to compare apples and oranges.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:47 am to NYCAuburn
quote:The really weird thing here is that a UGA fan feels rustled that some Bama fans think Tennessee is our bigger rival and not Auburn. He even "ran the numbers"...WTF?
no but I do find it funny sometimes and the thread from the other day had the opposite side. A bama fan got rustled/belittled because an Auburn fan said UGA was a bigger rival
Posted on 10/12/16 at 11:48 am to viceman
"There is no team Alabama fans want to beat more than Tennessee. There is no team Alabama fans hate to lose to more than Auburn."
I don't remember where I saw this (approximated) quote many years ago, but it's just as true now as it was then.
Now, if we're just talking pure hate between fanbases, it's Auburn and not even close. No rivalry anywhere comes close to that level of hatred.
I don't remember where I saw this (approximated) quote many years ago, but it's just as true now as it was then.
Now, if we're just talking pure hate between fanbases, it's Auburn and not even close. No rivalry anywhere comes close to that level of hatred.
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:02 pm to pvilleguru
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The people that lived through the 20s, 30s, and 40s, probably didn't give much thought to Auburn because we didn't play. UT easily became the big rival. [quote]
That I would say is certainly true.
[quote] They continued being the big rival through Bryant's tenure.
This I would say is generally true. However I think that Auburn's improvement as a program over the course of the Bryant era, coupled with Tennessee's relative decline probably helped to elevate the Iron Bowl a bit in the eyes of most folks towards the last half of the Bryant era.
From 1970-1982, Auburn was the #16 team in all of college football in terms of AP points. Tennessee was slightly behind at #20. Alabama dominated both during this time frame. They were 10-3 against Auburn and 11-2 against Tennessee.. Again, pretty close but Auburn did get one more win than Tennessee did.
I would say without a doubt, during much of Bryant's tenure, Tennessee was the bigger rival. But by end the of the Bryant years, it would have essentially been 1a) Tennessee and 1b) Auburn.
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There's still a ton of adults that remember that.
A lot of adults who remember that time? Sure. A lot of adults that were so entrenched in their thinking that they've been completely unswayed by 40 years of subsequent football? Very few. If any.
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I was born in 87 and remember more about games against UT in the 90s than games against Auburn. It's just always been the #1 rivalry to me.
If you were born in 1987, than means Auburn has a winning record over your team during your lifetime. Bama is 14-15 against Auburn going back to 1987. During the same period of time, Alabama is 18-10-1 against the Vols.
Again, I just don't buy this. Auburn is not only the in-state rival, but they've been more competitive against Alabama than any other program in the SEC for the past 60 years+.
In the post-Bryant era of Alabama football, Auburn is the only SEC team to have a winning record against Alabama. Winning percentage against Alabama in the post-Bryant era (1982-2015):
51.5%- Auburn
47.4%- Florida
42.6%- LSU
41.7%- Georgia
40.9%- Tennessee
So your in-state rival has a winning record against your own team for a span covering 35 years yet you choose the out-of-state team that has been the 5th most competitive against your team as your biggest rival?
You can think as you wish, but no one believes you.
This post was edited on 10/12/16 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 10/12/16 at 12:03 pm to The Spleen
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Did you ever stop to consider the Alabama Auburn rivalry seems bigger in Birmingham because there are so many fans/alums of both schools living here, and not near as many UT fans/alums? Did you run those numbers?
Absolutely. That's the entire point.
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