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re: Rape survivor Brenda Tracy invited to speak to the Auburn football team
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:42 pm to Zeroforwinger
Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:42 pm to Zeroforwinger
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How is rape, and not raping people, a PC issue?
It's PC because bringing in speakers to talk about rape is a trendy thing to do for football programs right now. I think it's all theater and doesn't really do anything to prevent it. If a kid doesn't know what rape is, he really shouldn't be in college in the first place.
There's a lot of reasons for the increase of rape on campus (if there is an increase at all -- the statistics are fuzzy). Either way, I don't think a lack of "player education" is one of them. I think it has more to do with the culture in general. If you're a girl drinking (in a private location) with a bunch of dudes, nothing "good" is going to come from it.
It's hard for me to believe these girls are that stupid, but apparently many of them are. If you read about these campus rape stories, almost all of them involve a girl out getting sloshed with a bunch of dudes and ending up back at one of their dorms/apartments. Almost none of them involve a dude snatching a chick from the sidewalk and knocking her on the head, etc. It's always a story of alcohol, passing out, and getting trained by a bunch of dudes she was out partying with.
Why can't we "educate" the girls about not putting themselves in these positions? Why is it always the guys that are the villains? Don't get me wrong, I am not condoning rape, even in these type of situations. I am only asking why is it always the guys that have to be the focus? Why can't we say "hey, girls, you're kinda putting yourself in bad positions here?"
Maybe I am just getting old and cynical. But I was that age once and people got shite-faced and partied then too. Most of the time, though, the girls were not alone or acting totally stupid. They were smart enough to bring other girls with them (or often guys they trusted).
My point is that groups are always better -- stay with a fricking group. Stop going out with a bunch of dudes alone and thinking that the guys wont get any ideas. If you're at a bar and a dude convinces you to go home with him, you should EXPECT that he wants sex. There's zero other reason he would want you to come back with him. Get a fricking clue.
End of rant.
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Posted on 8/24/16 at 2:48 pm to AUstar
quote:mother of god
It's PC because bringing in speakers to talk about rape is a trendy thing to do for football programs right now. I think it's all theater and doesn't really do anything to prevent it. If a kid doesn't know what rape is, he really shouldn't be in college in the first place.
There's a lot of reasons for the increase of rape on campus (if there is an increase at all -- the statistics are fuzzy). Either way, I don't think a lack of "player education" is one of them. I think it has more to do with the culture in general. If you're a girl drinking (in a private location) with a bunch of dudes, nothing "good" is going to come from it.
It's hard for me to believe these girls are that stupid, but apparently many of them are. If you read about these campus rape stories, almost all of them involve a girl out getting sloshed with a bunch of dudes and ending up back at one of their dorms/apartments. Almost none of them involve a dude snatching a chick from the sidewalk and knocking her on the head, etc. It's always a story of alcohol, passing out, and getting trained by a bunch of dudes she was out partying with.
Why can't we "educate" the girls about not putting themselves in these positions? Why is it always the guys that are the villains? Don't get me wrong, I am not condoning rape, even in these type of situations. I am only asking why is it always the guys that have to be the focus? Why can't we say "hey, girls, you're kinda putting yourself in bad positions here?"
Maybe I am just getting old and cynical. But I was that age once and people got shite-faced and partied then too. Most of the time, though, the girls were not alone or acting totally stupid. They were smart enough to bring other girls with them (or often guys they trusted).
My point is that groups are always better -- stay with a fricking group. Stop going out with a bunch of dudes alone and thinking that the guys wont get any ideas. If you're at a bar and a dude convinces you to go home with him, you should EXPECT that he wants sex. There's zero other reason he would want you to come back with him. Get a fricking clue.
End of rant.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:23 pm to AUstar
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It's PC because bringing in speakers to talk about rape is a trendy thing to do for football programs right now. I think it's all theater and doesn't really do anything to prevent it. If a kid doesn't know what rape is, he really shouldn't be in college in the first place.
There's a lot of reasons for the increase of rape on campus (if there is an increase at all -- the statistics are fuzzy). Either way, I don't think a lack of "player education" is one of them. I think it has more to do with the culture in general. If you're a girl drinking (in a private location) with a bunch of dudes, nothing "good" is going to come from it.
It's hard for me to believe these girls are that stupid, but apparently many of them are. If you read about these campus rape stories, almost all of them involve a girl out getting sloshed with a bunch of dudes and ending up back at one of their dorms/apartments. Almost none of them involve a dude snatching a chick from the sidewalk and knocking her on the head, etc. It's always a story of alcohol, passing out, and getting trained by a bunch of dudes she was out partying with.
Why can't we "educate" the girls about not putting themselves in these positions? Why is it always the guys that are the villains? Don't get me wrong, I am not condoning rape, even in these type of situations. I am only asking why is it always the guys that have to be the focus? Why can't we say "hey, girls, you're kinda putting yourself in bad positions here?"
Maybe I am just getting old and cynical. But I was that age once and people got shite-faced and partied then too. Most of the time, though, the girls were not alone or acting totally stupid. They were smart enough to bring other girls with them (or often guys they trusted).
My point is that groups are always better -- stay with a fricking group. Stop going out with a bunch of dudes alone and thinking that the guys wont get any ideas. If you're at a bar and a dude convinces you to go home with him, you should EXPECT that he wants sex. There's zero other reason he would want you to come back with him. Get a fricking clue.
End of rant.
Holy shite! You are actually one of those people who blame the girl? frick off dude..
Posted on 8/24/16 at 3:33 pm to AUstar
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If you're a girl drinking (in a private location) with a bunch of dudes, nothing "good" is going to come from it.
Do you blame murder victims for standing where someone was pointing their gun too? I mean, if they had just been somewhere else, they wouldn't have been murdered
This post was edited on 8/24/16 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:04 pm to AUstar
You're an idiot and I'm embarrassed you're an Auburn fan. I just hope you didn't go to school at Auburn.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:15 pm to AUstar
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AUstar
Your position is based on the premise that men in groups are rapists.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:53 pm to AUstar
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It's PC because bringing in speakers to talk about rape is a trendy thing to do for football programs right now. I think it's all theater and doesn't really do anything to prevent it. If a kid doesn't know what rape is, he really shouldn't be in college in the first place.
There's a lot of reasons for the increase of rape on campus (if there is an increase at all -- the statistics are fuzzy). Either way, I don't think a lack of "player education" is one of them. I think it has more to do with the culture in general. If you're a girl drinking (in a private location) with a bunch of dudes, nothing "good" is going to come from it.
It's hard for me to believe these girls are that stupid, but apparently many of them are. If you read about these campus rape stories, almost all of them involve a girl out getting sloshed with a bunch of dudes and ending up back at one of their dorms/apartments. Almost none of them involve a dude snatching a chick from the sidewalk and knocking her on the head, etc. It's always a story of alcohol, passing out, and getting trained by a bunch of dudes she was out partying with.
Why can't we "educate" the girls about not putting themselves in these positions? Why is it always the guys that are the villains? Don't get me wrong, I am not condoning rape, even in these type of situations. I am only asking why is it always the guys that have to be the focus? Why can't we say "hey, girls, you're kinda putting yourself in bad positions here?"
Maybe I am just getting old and cynical. But I was that age once and people got shite-faced and partied then too. Most of the time, though, the girls were not alone or acting totally stupid. They were smart enough to bring other girls with them (or often guys they trusted).
My point is that groups are always better -- stay with a fricking group. Stop going out with a bunch of dudes alone and thinking that the guys wont get any ideas. If you're at a bar and a dude convinces you to go home with him, you should EXPECT that he wants sex. There's zero other reason he would want you to come back with him. Get a fricking clue.
End of rant.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 4:53 pm to AUstar
Damn we have some dumbass fans
Posted on 8/24/16 at 5:03 pm to AUstar
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If you're a girl drinking (in a private location) with a bunch of dudes, nothing "good" is going to come from it.
So guys just can't control themselves and hence, have no responsibility for their actions? I really hope you never had kids.
Posted on 8/24/16 at 5:08 pm to AUstar
quote:Hillary, is that you?
"hey, girls, you're kinda putting yourself in bad positions here?"
Posted on 8/24/16 at 7:15 pm to AUstar
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Maybe I am just getting old and cynical. But I was that age once and people got shite-faced and partied then too. Most of the time, though, the girls were not alone or acting totally stupid. They were smart enough to bring other girls with them (or often guys they trusted).
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There's a lot of reasons for the increase of rape on campus (if there is an increase at all -- the statistics are fuzzy). Either way, I don't think a lack of "player education" is one of them. I think it has more to do with the culture in general. If you're a girl drinking (in a private location) with a bunch of dudes, nothing "good" is going to come from it.
Maybe you should read your own statements. The statistics are fuzzy because assholes hear about rape and go "why was she drunk around guys while wearing a skirt?" The reporting rate on rape certainly has not gone down since you were partying and getting shite faced. Something tells me that more women were getting drunkenly assaulted back then than were reported too, so I'm not sure a line of thinking like "this didn't happen back in my day!" is a good way to go.
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