My only point with the "maybes" was to illustrate that there are innumerable possibilities and "angles," but the facts are that these two were in a car, in a closed park, at night, with a stolen gun and drugs.

Edit: Les got rid of superstar QB Ryan Perriloux for FAR less, setting back the LSU QB situation for years.

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Posted by randomways

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Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:23 am to SeekGreatness

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My only point with the "maybes" was to illustrate that there are innumerable possibilities and "angles," but the facts are that these two were in a car, in a closed park, at night, with a stolen gun and drugs.

I added to my reply, in case that clarifies anything. The drugs issue doesn't matter to me in the least -- I wholeheartedly endorse legalizing pot and think the War on Drugs has been a failure and a social ill of the highest magnitude -- but the stolen gun issue is certainly worth looking at. But without a valid investigation, there's no way to establish who stole it, which makes it a moot point again. If it was one of the other passengers, what would be the ethics of getting upset that the Bama player wasn't jailed over it? It could have been him, of course, but there's no foundation for that assumption other than the "smoke/fire" principle you raise...which, by itself, is a terrible principle both in legal and journalistic arenas. "Smoke/fire," I daresay, has been responsible for more injustice than actual malice over the course of human history.

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Posted by randomways

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Posted on 6/21/16 at 1:29 am to SeekGreatness

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Edit: Les got rid of superstar QB Ryan Perriloux for FAR less, setting back the LSU QB situation for years.

I'd point out that one has nothing to do with the other, but I was under the impression that Perrilloux was kicked off for a pattern of bad behavior, not a single incident. Les also kept Mathieu around for quite a while despite repeated drug test failures. Let's not turn this into a "my coach is holier than theirs" debate, because all coaches have questionable decisions to their name.

Edit: Dammit, I had to look up his name when I realized you spelled it with one 'l' and I spelled it with two. Can we at least agree that y'all coonasses are driving the rest of us crazy trying to spell your French names?

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Posted by JuiceTerry

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Posted on 6/21/16 at 5:59 am to SeekGreatness

You fail to mention how many times Perriloux "violated team rules" or Mathieu "failed drug tests". These guys were booted because of cumulative actions, which is not far less than the Bama players, but far worse. If Cam or Hootie keep frickin up, they should probably go, but you're being disingenuous with your comparisons.

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