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Kirby's transition to Head Coach
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:24 pm
Won't be as smooth as many expect. Saban was a great mentor but performing as a head coach at Saban's level is a lonnnnnng stretch. Saban would have succeeded without Kirby Smart. Where would Kirby be without Saban?
Kirby spent the last 9 years calling Defenses in a system designed and run by Saban. Saban was the architect - Kirby his Disciple. Big difference. There are leaders and followers - don't kid yourself about this. You are one or the other but not both. If it was easy everybody would be doing it. It's not easy. Kirby's had it easy for 9 years. Now it's all on him. Imitation won't win Kirby a National Championship or even a solid winning career. He's got to do that himself with skills he already has - and I don't think he has them. That's a tough road only one in a million can conquer. Is Kirby really one in a million?
I don't think Kirby has the personality or mental toughness to match Saban's on field success - or even come close. No one knows exactly what's going to happen but I don't think Kirby can get Georgia to the promised land. In fact - I don't think he'll be able to match Mark Richt's level of success. Kirby's a great defensive coach. He's proven that. But - he hasn't proven anything else. Success as a first time Head Coach is very hard to forecast. I think Kirby will win the team over but I don't think he's got the smarts to cover all the bases all the time and become an Icon as the face of Georgia Football program in any similar way as his mentor Nick Saban. Ask yourself this question: Would Kirby Smart have the Georgia job today if he hadn't worked for Nick Saban? Of course not. He won the job on Saban's success not his own.
Georgia hopes Smart becomes Saban thru osmosis but it doesn't work that way. 10 years from now I don't think Kirby will still be the coach at Georgia.
One of Kirby's most significant jobs at Alabama was recruiting and he'll continue to excel at it but being a Field General and the Leader of the Team are things Kirby has never done.
Kirby spent the last 9 years calling Defenses in a system designed and run by Saban. Saban was the architect - Kirby his Disciple. Big difference. There are leaders and followers - don't kid yourself about this. You are one or the other but not both. If it was easy everybody would be doing it. It's not easy. Kirby's had it easy for 9 years. Now it's all on him. Imitation won't win Kirby a National Championship or even a solid winning career. He's got to do that himself with skills he already has - and I don't think he has them. That's a tough road only one in a million can conquer. Is Kirby really one in a million?
I don't think Kirby has the personality or mental toughness to match Saban's on field success - or even come close. No one knows exactly what's going to happen but I don't think Kirby can get Georgia to the promised land. In fact - I don't think he'll be able to match Mark Richt's level of success. Kirby's a great defensive coach. He's proven that. But - he hasn't proven anything else. Success as a first time Head Coach is very hard to forecast. I think Kirby will win the team over but I don't think he's got the smarts to cover all the bases all the time and become an Icon as the face of Georgia Football program in any similar way as his mentor Nick Saban. Ask yourself this question: Would Kirby Smart have the Georgia job today if he hadn't worked for Nick Saban? Of course not. He won the job on Saban's success not his own.
Georgia hopes Smart becomes Saban thru osmosis but it doesn't work that way. 10 years from now I don't think Kirby will still be the coach at Georgia.
One of Kirby's most significant jobs at Alabama was recruiting and he'll continue to excel at it but being a Field General and the Leader of the Team are things Kirby has never done.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 11:36 pm
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Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:39 pm to 12thFairway
I'm guessing you did not see Eason in their spring practice or the 93k show up to watch?
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:40 pm to 12thFairway
I think I'll reserve judgment until I see the team on the field.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:41 pm to 12thFairway
I will never believe they actually fired Mark Richt for Kirby f'n Smart. If he is there for three years I will be shocked.
Posted on 4/18/16 at 11:44 pm to 12thFairway
I hate to lose him at Bama, but Kirby will go down as the greatest coach in UGA history when all is said and done.
Your right, he's not Saban, but he's the closest thing out there,
ETA: sans Meyer.
Your right, he's not Saban, but he's the closest thing out there,
ETA: sans Meyer.
This post was edited on 4/18/16 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:10 am to 12thFairway
Who said UGA thinks its getting Saban 2.0? There's a lot of things we hoped he learned learning from the best for such a long time. He has came in, said all the right things, kept a recruiting class intact and even added more talent and is building a similar class for 2017.
I think its unfair to say that he won't be Saban because I don't think anyone would expect him to be. Nick Saban is a once in a lifetime-type coach.
We may not win a national title under Smart. But we weren't doing it before anyway. Might as well snag the guy who has been groomed by the best for a long time.
I think its unfair to say that he won't be Saban because I don't think anyone would expect him to be. Nick Saban is a once in a lifetime-type coach.
We may not win a national title under Smart. But we weren't doing it before anyway. Might as well snag the guy who has been groomed by the best for a long time.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:13 am to 12thFairway
Kirby is going to be a bum and the enthusiasm will be gone fairly quick.
Saban's prodigies never amount to anything really either.
Saban's prodigies never amount to anything really either.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:16 am to 12thFairway
I think Kirby has proven to be a big chicken so far. And not the awesomely wonderful moderator kind, but this kind:
Posted on 4/19/16 at 12:50 am to 12thFairway
There is so much fail in this it almost hurts.
Your entire post revolves around Kirby Smart having as much on field success as nick Saban. Ok. I think we all agree. He probably won't. Who says he has to? And I love this little nugget:
Ok...now it is my turn to be Carnac.
"10 years from now Saban will not be the coach at Alabama!"
How's that for a prediction?
Your entire post revolves around Kirby Smart having as much on field success as nick Saban. Ok. I think we all agree. He probably won't. Who says he has to? And I love this little nugget:
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10 years from now I don't think Kirby will still be the coach at Georgia.
Ok...now it is my turn to be Carnac.
"10 years from now Saban will not be the coach at Alabama!"
How's that for a prediction?
Posted on 4/19/16 at 3:58 am to 12thFairway
I am betting Georgia is pretty damn good this year.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 4:33 am to 12thFairway
Silly thought processes going on in that first post. Personally, I don't think saban is the worthless mentor you think he is just as belechick wasn't for saban.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 5:10 am
Posted on 4/19/16 at 5:43 am to 12thFairway
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I don't think Kirby has the personality or mental toughness to match Saban's on field success - or even come close. No one knows exactly what's going to happen but I don't think Kirby can get Georgia to the promised land. In fact - I don't think he'll be able to match Mark Richt's level of success. Kirby's a great defensive coach. He's proven that. But - he hasn't proven anything else. Success as a first time Head Coach is very hard to forecast.
Lol at this sequence of thoughts
Posted on 4/19/16 at 5:59 am to 12thFairway
Also there are reasons Saban and others are successful at Bama:
1) at Bama there is an unlimited football budget; including gold plated (really over the top) football facilities
2) no admissions office interference (also Bama is one of only three SEC schools, along with Ole Miss and MS State) that accept Ds as acceptance for high school students and junior college transfers
3) The Bama head football coach reports to no one, there is no higher authority at Bama unless there are severe ethics violations or loses to Auburn
These conditions will not follow Smart to UGA.
1) at Bama there is an unlimited football budget; including gold plated (really over the top) football facilities
2) no admissions office interference (also Bama is one of only three SEC schools, along with Ole Miss and MS State) that accept Ds as acceptance for high school students and junior college transfers
3) The Bama head football coach reports to no one, there is no higher authority at Bama unless there are severe ethics violations or loses to Auburn
These conditions will not follow Smart to UGA.
This post was edited on 4/19/16 at 6:02 am
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:12 am to 12thFairway
All I read was fear. Your argument is Kirby will never win 5 national titles, well no shite. You’re passing judgement on a coach who has never fielded a team. Sounds rather ridiculous.
Contradicting yourself in your initial argument? I’m glad you’re smart enough to make that bold forecast. Get the frick out of here
For the record, no UGA fan thinks Kirby will come close to Saban’s success. There is only one Nick Saban in the history of college football.
Do you feel better now?
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Success as a first time Head Coach is very hard to forecast.
Contradicting yourself in your initial argument? I’m glad you’re smart enough to make that bold forecast. Get the frick out of here
For the record, no UGA fan thinks Kirby will come close to Saban’s success. There is only one Nick Saban in the history of college football.
Do you feel better now?
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:12 am to 12thFairway
All I read was fear. Your argument is Kirby will never win 5 national titles, well no shite. You’re passing judgement on a coach who has never fielded a team. Sounds rather ridiculous.
Contradicting yourself in your initial argument? I’m glad you’re smart enough to make that bold forecast. Get the frick out of here
For the record, no UGA fan thinks Kirby will come close to Saban’s success. There is only one Nick Saban in the history of college football.
Do you feel better now?
quote:
Success as a first time Head Coach is very hard to forecast.
Contradicting yourself in your initial argument? I’m glad you’re smart enough to make that bold forecast. Get the frick out of here
For the record, no UGA fan thinks Kirby will come close to Saban’s success. There is only one Nick Saban in the history of college football.
Do you feel better now?
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:14 am to 12thFairway
All we expect is him to have the team ready to play at a high level and not have repeats of last year's Bama game. We're not expecting him to come in year one and win a natty.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:16 am to 12thFairway
TL;DR
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:25 am to 12thFairway
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Kirby's transition to Head Coach
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Won't be as smooth as many expect
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I don't think he has them.
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I don't think Kirby
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No one knows exactly what's going to happen
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He's proven that
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he hasn't proven anything
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is very hard to forecast.
So you basically make a statement of fact.....and then go on to say what you "think" may or may not happen and basically nobody will know until later. Why didn't you just come out and say none of us will know whether or not Kirby will be a good coach until he actually coaches a few seasons? He's no different than any other coordinator that is becoming a 1st time coach. Only time will tell. Not that hard.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:45 am to 12thFairway
Ah yes. Classic defense mechanisms at work in this thread.
Posted on 4/19/16 at 6:51 am to 12thFairway
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