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re: Offense wins games, Defense wins championships
Posted on 1/12/16 at 11:25 pm to Mirthomatic
Posted on 1/12/16 at 11:25 pm to Mirthomatic
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I think it's safe to say that the old formula just doesn't always hold, and that the game is different these days.
don't think the game is a bit different. It's just a stupid cliche.
Bill Walsh, Mike Shanahan, Joe Gibbs - offensive coaches. Spurrier, Bowden, Urban - offensive.
You can't really go back beyond modern times because most coaches were not side specific til the mid 60 to early 70s.
But there have always been offensive coaches winning. You just can't win with a shitty defense. You also can't win with a shitty offense. See 21-0.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 10:27 am to tmc94
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don't think the game is a bit different. It's just a stupid cliche.
Bill Walsh, Mike Shanahan, Joe Gibbs - offensive coaches. Spurrier, Bowden, Urban - offensive.
You can't really go back beyond modern times because most coaches were not side specific til the mid 60 to early 70s.
But there have always been offensive coaches winning. You just can't win with a shitty defense. You also can't win with a shitty offense. See 21-0.
Precisely.
Posted on 1/13/16 at 10:47 am to tmc94
I would agree that the saying has always been an overgeneralization, but I would say it is less true now than ever before.
It used to be that Run the Ball, Shorten the Game, Play Great Defense was a viable strategy. I'd argue that's no longer the case. The passing game has advanced too much, and there have been too many changes to rules and interpretations to rules that favor the offense.
It's not just offensive coaches winning with offense. Now a coach like Nick Saban, a HC known for his defense perhaps as much as any in history, now even HE is winning championships by outscoring the opponent.
It used to be that Run the Ball, Shorten the Game, Play Great Defense was a viable strategy. I'd argue that's no longer the case. The passing game has advanced too much, and there have been too many changes to rules and interpretations to rules that favor the offense.
It's not just offensive coaches winning with offense. Now a coach like Nick Saban, a HC known for his defense perhaps as much as any in history, now even HE is winning championships by outscoring the opponent.
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