Started By
Message
re: Why was Dabo so pissed at the refs after the onside kick?
Posted on 1/12/16 at 1:40 pm to roguetiger15
Posted on 1/12/16 at 1:40 pm to roguetiger15
Because he is not familiar with the rules of football
0
Posted on 1/12/16 at 1:42 pm to roguetiger15
Probably thought some guys were offsides from where he was on the sideline.
I'd like to think a ref simply said, "That's not a missed call, that's Clemsoning".
I'd like to think a ref simply said, "That's not a missed call, that's Clemsoning".
Posted on 1/12/16 at 1:45 pm to Croot
quote:
you mean UNC was not offsides?
In that picture? No. Are you referring to the plant foot? A plant foot can't be off-sides just so long as the kick is proper.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 1:50 pm to tigress4life
quote:
After the game he referenced an onside kick his team had tried last season, or last year? Not sure, but he said was called back because his opponents didn't have the opportunity to make a catch.
Which is not in any rule that I recall about onside kicks so I don't really know what he was talking about.
Yes, but the SC player signaled for "fair catch" on that play, therefore Clemson was obligated to allow him 2 yards of unobstructed space to allow him to field the ball cleanly. However, Clemson did NOT call fair catch last night in the Alabama game, so it is not a comparable play by any means...Dabo is a dumbass for making such a comparison.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 2:23 pm to Croot
The kicker is clearly offsides in that picture.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 2:33 pm to BadTyreke
quote:
The kicker is clearly offsides in that picture.
Is that a troll attempt, or do you just not know the rules?
Posted on 1/12/16 at 2:33 pm to TheDude321
Not knowing the rules is not just for head coaches.. it is for announcers, fans, even refs at times.
This rule about fair catch also applies to punts.
When a player signals a fair catch, the ball is not classified as "bobbled" until it hits the ground.
Think back to the "controversial" interference call on the punt in the Alabama-Notre Dame NC game and how Herbstreet-boy went all ballistic about "what is going on..." etc. In that game the Alabama receiver signaled fair catch, then bobbled the ball. But before it hit the ground he was leveled and the ball caught by a Notre Dame player. Sorry... that is interference, player must have a chance to catch the ball even if "bobbled" until it hits the ground.
But in the Ala/ND game, even the ref-in-the-press-box, Rogers Redding, "head of refs worldwide," blew the explanation somewhat and just referenced the violation of the 2-yard zone, not the illegal touching of player and ball.
By the way... that particular head of Ref association, Rogers Redding, was the ref who called the unsportsmanlike penalty for spinning the ball on Derrick Lassic in the Alabama/Miami NC game in New Orleans... one of the most ridiculous anti-Alabama calls in history.
This rule about fair catch also applies to punts.
When a player signals a fair catch, the ball is not classified as "bobbled" until it hits the ground.
Think back to the "controversial" interference call on the punt in the Alabama-Notre Dame NC game and how Herbstreet-boy went all ballistic about "what is going on..." etc. In that game the Alabama receiver signaled fair catch, then bobbled the ball. But before it hit the ground he was leveled and the ball caught by a Notre Dame player. Sorry... that is interference, player must have a chance to catch the ball even if "bobbled" until it hits the ground.
But in the Ala/ND game, even the ref-in-the-press-box, Rogers Redding, "head of refs worldwide," blew the explanation somewhat and just referenced the violation of the 2-yard zone, not the illegal touching of player and ball.
By the way... that particular head of Ref association, Rogers Redding, was the ref who called the unsportsmanlike penalty for spinning the ball on Derrick Lassic in the Alabama/Miami NC game in New Orleans... one of the most ridiculous anti-Alabama calls in history.
This post was edited on 1/12/16 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 1/12/16 at 2:34 pm to randomways
quote:
In that picture? No. Are you referring to the plant foot? A plant foot can't be off-sides just so long as the kick is proper.
He was saying that it wasn't Clemson being offsides, it was UNC not being offsides. He was correcting the person he replied to.
Also, here is the onside kick from the 2014 Clemson-South Carolina game
Should go right to it, if it doesn't it's the 28 minute mark. We called fair catch, so we had to be given a fair chance to catch the ball. Clemson last night did not call a fair catch, so no penalty.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 2:57 pm to Jacknola
My thing is there was no one really near the ball to catch it anyway.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:40 pm to KingSlayer
How can a kicker be offsides? Lol
If your body has passed the ball how can you kick it?
Watch any running kick by a soccer style kicker ( which is every kick in college in the NFL). The plant foot is next to the ball (kind of how a golfers front foot is in front of the golf ball when he swings)
If your body has passed the ball how can you kick it?
Watch any running kick by a soccer style kicker ( which is every kick in college in the NFL). The plant foot is next to the ball (kind of how a golfers front foot is in front of the golf ball when he swings)
Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:49 pm to CNB
quote:
He was saying that it wasn't Clemson being offsides, it was UNC not being offsides. He was correcting the person he replied to.
Also, here is the onside kick from the 2014 Clemson-South Carolina game
Should go right to it, if it doesn't it's the 28 minute mark. We called fair catch, so we had to be given a fair chance to catch the ball. Clemson last night did not call a fair catch, so no penalty.
Okay, gotcha.
And I have no idea what to make of anyone comparing the kick last night to the one you linked to. Your player was clearly in catching position -- he didn't even have to call a fair catch in that situation -- and the Clemson guy that intercepted him ran right over him as the ball was about to be caught. I'm baffled that any HC wouldn't tell his players not to do something like that. There's no room for interpretation there.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 3:52 pm to roguetiger15
Coaches often argue significant plays regardless of having a point. It creates doubt in the minds of the officials that they made the right call, which can help the team later. Officials don't get the benefit of replays to confirm their judgment. Arguing with the officials works, just later, it's psychology.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 4:26 pm to roguetiger15
...and Bama kicked it towards the Clemson sideline. Caught the ball right in their face.
Congrats Bama. Hadn't seen that ballsy an onsides kick play since the Saints used one to open the 2nd half of the Super Bowl.
Congrats Bama. Hadn't seen that ballsy an onsides kick play since the Saints used one to open the 2nd half of the Super Bowl.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 4:41 pm to ATLdawg25
quote:
thought Bama was offsides on the kick.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 4:45 pm to mikeytig
quote:
thought Bama was offsides on the kick.
Not sure what you're seeing. The closest one to the line besides the kicker was at least a yard back. I'm pretty sure that, immediately before the play, Saban personally threatened to tear the heart out of any player who was off-sides in that play. I mean, I'm hypothesizing, but I think the Last Judgement will bear me out.
Posted on 1/12/16 at 4:45 pm to Stuttgart Tiger
I believe the fair catch is actually irrelevant to the call. The kicking team is not allowed to interfere with receiving team making a catch on the kick.
On Clemson's kick, not only did the South Carolina player call for a fair catch, the Clemson player went through him to catch the onside kick.
A well coached special teams is always going to call for a fair catch. It kills the play upon the player making the catch. If he doesn't call for fair catch, he's probably going to be leveled and risk a fumble.
Edit: And as prior poster mentioned, bobbling is protected.
On Clemson's kick, not only did the South Carolina player call for a fair catch, the Clemson player went through him to catch the onside kick.
A well coached special teams is always going to call for a fair catch. It kills the play upon the player making the catch. If he doesn't call for fair catch, he's probably going to be leveled and risk a fumble.
Edit: And as prior poster mentioned, bobbling is protected.
This post was edited on 1/12/16 at 4:48 pm
Page 2 of 2
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News