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re: I'm tired of people trying to argue the Big 10/PAC 12 are on our level

Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:16 pm to
Posted by mightysooner
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Jun 2015
1252 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:16 pm to
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Yeah right. I have family from the south that fought for TX and still live there. They are southern as hell. I have family in MO and they went yankee in the 1930's during the Great Depression so you have me there.




Nope. I've been all over the south and all over texas and you texans aren't anything close to southern. My family fought for the south. Doesn't make me southern, because I'm not, and I don't live there.

Whether you like it or not, texans, your culture isn't southern, and you aren't part of the south. Your culture is western (hats, wranglers, boots, buckles, cowboys), not southern. In other words, it's just like Oklahoma's culture, only we don't print our names on our belts, wear tacky jewelry, and we don't dress our kids in matching outfits their parents are wearing so they all look like mini-mes. Just deal with it.....

Missouri is part of the midwest. Case closed.
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 9:27 pm
Posted by SECfirst
Member since Sep 2015
70 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:21 pm to
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List of Southeastern Conference national championships



Yeah, that's like 3rd to last dude.

I'm all for the SEC - and speaking the truth - but you speaking lies about the SEC.

Pac-12 has more National Titles than three conferences combined.

It's why they are called by the media "the Conference of Champions"

They have like 500 while the Big10 has about 200 and the SEC has like 50.

In fact, in all of history.

The Top 3 schools in the entire nation are all from the Pac-12.

Most National Championships by school -

1. UCLA
2. Stanford
3. Southern Cal

SEC doesn't show up until Arkansas at 6.

Pac-12 has the most football, most basketball and most baseball National Titles.

The Big 3 - Pac-12 owns them all.
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes Gambler
Member since Dec 2014
3916 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:33 pm to
If you are going to put Maryland in any argument for a good "win", you better be talking basketball or Lacrosse. Football is something they don't care about.
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes Gambler
Member since Dec 2014
3916 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:47 pm to
_________________________
Bert
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Winningest coach ever
_________________________

Possibly the dumbest words ever to be sounded out together. Maybe he just isn't that great of a coach. Yeah, you failed to mention the guy was losing bowl games like his life depended on it. I don't think of too many great coaches who can't win the bowl games. And he beat Nebraska in the B1G championship games. They weren't exactly known for spending energy on the defensive end, to say the least. And he's 2-15 because he doesn't have a blue chip QB. His teams always turn the ball over at crucial times. He has an inconsistent offensive line and undersized DBs. And he loses to Toledo, who is a pretty good team. But you yokels don't give any credit to Yankee teams so eat a bowl of d1x.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:51 pm to
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There are 6-7 SEC teams most years who could win 10+ games in the PAC or Big 10. You have to play teams with talent on your level so rarely.


So do is all a favor and leave the SEC and join the Big10
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:54 pm to
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Ohio State could walk through the SEC West, 


bullshite. OSU has struggled to put away inferior teams this year. If you want to say LSU could win the sec west then I'd agree but walk through it? You're delusional.
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 10:04 pm
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:57 pm to
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Only teams playing for your CCG and national titles recently and winning their divisions have been spread oriented teams. Look at Ole Miss. A spread team. 


Do you even pay attention to the sec? In no way is Bama or lsu a spread team.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 9:58 pm to
quote:

'll didn't have any spread teams in your league back then.


OK you clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Meyer was UF when lsu and bama won national titles and Gus has been at auburn.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:01 pm to
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Most of the Pac-12 would run roughshod over the SEC and that's a sad fact. 


You are proving your football ignorance.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:02 pm to
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Vegas would have Penn State favored over every team in the SEC that isn't LSU, Bama and Ole Miss.


Holy shite. Bruh you're dumb
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

Pac-12 has more National Titles than three conferences combined. 



Only because they play more sports in the Pac 12.

Sec has more National Titles,in the 3 major men's sports,than any conf.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:10 pm to
quote:

texans aren't anything close to southern.


Damn straight!!!
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:12 pm to
quote:

Your culture is western (hats, wranglers, boots, buckles, cowboys), not southern.


Our culture is an amalgamation of things, actually.

Not Western.

Not Southern.

Not Midwestern.

Not Southwestern.




Just Texan.
Posted by mightysooner
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Jun 2015
1252 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

Just Texan.


Correct = western
Posted by SECfirst
Member since Sep 2015
70 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:20 pm to
Nope

You are an idiot or a liar.

Pac-12 has most baseball, basketball and football national titles.

15 in basketball - most
17 in baseball - most
17 in football - most (11 by USC, 3 by Cal, 1 by Stanford, 1 by UCLA, 1 by Colorado.)

It's not the often refrain of the Pac-12 plays Olympic sports more.

Pac-12 owns also the Big 3 sports. That's a fact...google is your friend.
This post was edited on 9/30/15 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54792 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

Pac-12 has the most football, most basketball and most baseball National Titles.


1900 - 1949 = Football MNC's
SEC (15) = 5 + 2 + 1 + 3 + 2 + 2 (not counting TAMU's 3 claimed MNC's)
PCC (11) = 4 + 5 + 2
15 > 11 | SEC is +4 here

1950 - 1979 = Football MNC's
SEC (17) = 6 + 3 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 3 + 1 (not counting Hogs 1964 claimed MNC)
PAC (7) = 5 + 1 + 1
17 > 7 | SEC is +10 here

1980 - 2015 = Football MNC's
SEC (14) = 4 + 3 + 3 + 2 + 1 + 1
PAC (4) = 1 + 3 (Not counting 2004 vacated title or 1990 Colorado title)
14 > 4 | SEC is +10 here

SHOW ME HOW THE PCC / PAC have more MNC's in football?




1939 - 1979 = NCAA M Basketball Champions
SEC (5) = 5 (all UK)
PAC (13) = UCLA 10 + Cal 59' 1 + Stanford 42' 1 + Oregon 39' 1 (Utah was not in the PCC in 1944)
13 > 5 | PAC is +8 here

1980 - 2015 = NCAA M Basketball Champions
SEC (6) = 3 + 2 + 1
PAC (2) = UCLA 1 + Arizona 1
6 > 2 | SEC is +4 here

PCC / PAC is +4 all time but the SEC is 3:1 in the modern era




1947 - 1989 = NCAA CWS Champions
SEC (0) = Missouri's 1954 CWS is not counted as they were not in the SEC at the time
PAC (18) = 1940's 2 + 1950's 2 + 1960's 3 + 1970's 6 + 1980's 5
(AZ and ASU were in Border Conference till 1978 so 65', 67', 69', 76', and 77' and not counted)
18 > 0 | PAC is +18 here

1990 - 2014 = NCAA CWS Champions
SEC (10) = LSU 6 + SC 2 + UGA 1 + VU 1
PAC (5) = OSU 2 + USC 1 + AZ 1 + UCLA 1
10 > 5 | SEC is +5 here

PCC / PAC is +13 all time but the SEC is 2:1 in the modern era


quote:

The Big 3 - Pac-12 owns them all.


They certainly do not own football, and their ownership of basketball and baseball are in the past. Modern history suggests the SEC owns the PAC in all 3 spots. SEC also owns Gymnastics and W Basketball. Softball is shifting to the SEC as are other sports. Sure the PAC may dominate the likes of water polo and sailing but how much revenue do they bring in.

quote:

Most National Championships by school -

1. UCLA = 11 basketball, 1 baseball, 0 football
2. Stanford = 1 basketball, 1 baseball, 0 football
3. Southern Cal = 0 basketball, 12 baseball, 0 football


Posted by SECfirst
Member since Sep 2015
70 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:23 pm to
You're dumb.

Google is your friend.

What does this even mean "modern history shows" - we're talking about all history.

USC has more national titles in baseball than the entire SEC.

USC has more national titles in football than the entire SEC.

UCLA has more national titles in the basketball than the entire SEC.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:29 pm to
Sec has 38 claimed football titles
11 basketball
10 baseball.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

USC has more national titles in football than the entire SEC.


What? You're fricking stupid if you believe that.
Posted by SECfirst
Member since Sep 2015
70 posts
Posted on 9/30/15 at 10:31 pm to
Is USC 2003, 2004, 2005...and Oregon State 2006, 2007 and UCLA 1995 and Arizona 1997..."modern history."
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