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Using college students as CIs: does this happen in your college town?
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:26 am
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:26 am
Here's an article on how this goes down in Oxford. Fairly long, but worth the read if you have time to kill.
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I've known of people who were involved in this, or the narcos tried to get them to do it and they refused only to end up on probation and paying a fine. It's pretty disgusting how they use a never ending chain of naive kids to have a perpetual ring of informants who more than half of are small time weed users. This is all to fund a 4 dude operation, and has ruined, or severely hampered, hundreds of lives.
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I've known of people who were involved in this, or the narcos tried to get them to do it and they refused only to end up on probation and paying a fine. It's pretty disgusting how they use a never ending chain of naive kids to have a perpetual ring of informants who more than half of are small time weed users. This is all to fund a 4 dude operation, and has ruined, or severely hampered, hundreds of lives.
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Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:33 am to OBReb6
I was not familiar with this. I would like to say I am shocked...but this is small town MS. I have really never had a positive interaction with any cop in Oxford or Starkville.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:33 am to OBReb6
It happened a few years ago in Tuscaloosa, somewhere around 60 or 70 people were arrested. fricking narcs.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:35 am to HempHead
I don't really blame the students. They are 18 year olds getting bullied. It's easy to get flustered when cops are in your face.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:37 am to HempHead
They have busts in Oxford every March/April after building cases from snitch evidence over the course of the year.
Most of these kids would be way better off by shutting their mouth, getting a lawyer and moving on with the process. They usually end up with probation and a fine. The cops will lie their asses off with elaborate threats of what will happen to them because they know they are young and stupid.
Most of these kids would be way better off by shutting their mouth, getting a lawyer and moving on with the process. They usually end up with probation and a fine. The cops will lie their asses off with elaborate threats of what will happen to them because they know they are young and stupid.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:42 am to OBReb6
Just finished reading the article...Ole Miss is giving 100k to this narcotics unit. 
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:44 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
Yeah, I'm trying to think of what they realistically could have to gain by helping to fund the unit
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:47 am to OBReb6
Definitely looks bad. They are funding something that puts students lives in danger.
I hope this article gets them to stop funding it.
I hope this article gets them to stop funding it.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:48 am to OBReb6
"I'd like my lawyer". Best phrase ever when talking to the cops. Say nothing, and wait for your lawyer. That should be lesson 1 in college.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:51 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
Yeah students lives are in danger, but the reason this system is so effective is because the students aren't in any very serious danger, such as getting murdered over it, like they would be in Memphis for instance.
I had one friend who got snitched on for selling a couple adderalls. We knew exactly who did it and plotted to beat his arse, but decided not to because we thought it would compromise our friend's case. After everything had passed over we had gotten too old and were about to be out of school and didn't follow through with it.
I had one friend who got snitched on for selling a couple adderalls. We knew exactly who did it and plotted to beat his arse, but decided not to because we thought it would compromise our friend's case. After everything had passed over we had gotten too old and were about to be out of school and didn't follow through with it.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:55 am to OBReb6
Well they do give an example of a guy dying in a similar program in North Dakota.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 10:57 am to Eric Nies Grind Time
Not exactly common outside of beatings though
Posted on 4/21/15 at 11:04 am to OBReb6
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Most of these kids would be way better off by shutting their mouth, getting a lawyer and moving on with the process. They usually end up with probation and a fine. The cops will lie their asses off with elaborate threats of what will happen to them because they know they are young and stupid.
An old roommate of mine was searched at a gas station by badges in an unmarked car for "a weed odor" in the car (he didn't smoke in his car and hadn't smoked in over a week). They found a six month old empty baggy, claiming to be able to tell it contained weed residue with no testing. They strong armed him for weeks saying he would go to jail over this but they would drop the charges if they got his dealer's name. After almost a year of him telling them he had nothing to say they finally just sent him a letter explaining the charges had been dropped.
This post was edited on 4/21/15 at 11:07 am
Posted on 4/21/15 at 11:07 am to OBReb6
Damn that is some fricked up shite.
More reasons that weed should be legal. The amounts described in that article are nothing. Absolutely ridiculous.
More reasons that weed should be legal. The amounts described in that article are nothing. Absolutely ridiculous.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 11:11 am to OBReb6
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A typical deal that gets offered: Make 20 undercover buys, two buys each from 10 dealers, and it all goes away. Those arrests lead to more informants and so on.
That's not typical. At. All.
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“[I]f a white boy in a polo shirt comes over to your house to try to buy drugs, you make them pull up their shirt,” said one Ole Miss student who requested anonymity because of his involvement in the drug scene.
Lol.... Dumbass
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Then he would get wired up, always following the same routine: He met the agents in an office inside the brick federal building on Oxford Square. An agent taped a microphone to his chest then gave him a polo shirt. The agent had pulled the shirt off of a rack filled with perhaps a dozen other polo shirts in many different colors. Inside each shirt, a thin wire ran up the front and into a button at the collar, where it was attached to a camera. The camera was nearly invisible, and even if you looked closely all you’d see was a thin black loose thread hanging out of the button. Another agent gave him something that looked like a lunchbox, the kind with soft, insulating sidings. There was a camera inside that box and it peeked out of a hole on the side. Andy was to place the box on his dashboard. Once the equipment was set, Andy called the dealer to confirm the deal.
Even MS has better tech than that.
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Lee mentioned that he’d started selling crack.
Lol.
This article reeks of bullshite. From both sides.
This post was edited on 4/21/15 at 11:22 am
Posted on 4/21/15 at 11:18 am to OBReb6
I'm so glad pot is decriminalized in MS now.
When I retire it's on.
NOBODY should narc though. I have no sympathy for someone who sells someone else up the river for their own mistakes.
When I retire it's on.
NOBODY should narc though. I have no sympathy for someone who sells someone else up the river for their own mistakes.
This post was edited on 4/21/15 at 11:28 am
Posted on 4/21/15 at 11:27 am to OBReb6
Unfortunately, OPD and the Lafayette County Sheriff's Dept. have the reputation of being dirty, crooked units.
In my opinion, the means don't justify the ends. Three grams of weed does not equal twenty stings, twenty buys, etc.
The level of danger presented in each controlled buy is far greater than that presented by the marijuana itself. The two are not balanced, and balance must exist, especially in the criminal sphere.
In my opinion, the means don't justify the ends. Three grams of weed does not equal twenty stings, twenty buys, etc.
The level of danger presented in each controlled buy is far greater than that presented by the marijuana itself. The two are not balanced, and balance must exist, especially in the criminal sphere.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 11:29 am to Rebelgator
The use of CIs is never going away. In my experience in the criminal field, we used CIs unwittingly, meaning they didn't even know they were being used. It removes the chance of violence one more degree away from the CI; however, it is not applicable in any situation and Oxford is far smaller than New Orleans.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 11:30 am to Tornado Alley
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In my opinion, the means don't justify the ends. Three grams of weed does not equal twenty stings, twenty buys, etc.
You'd be right. Normally, you're caught with an oz of coke then you bring in 2 oz's and your dealer. That's it.
Posted on 4/21/15 at 11:31 am to Rebelgator
More dangerous drugs could warrant such a plan of action, IMO.
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