re: New study finds married parents, not race, single biggest factor in success

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You win.

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You both win! No nation will rise above its homes.

Who would have thought? But, but, what about white privilege keeping the black man down?

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40 (very good ones) for me on 4/5/15

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Congrats. Will log 20 this year (sometimes hard ones) But my kids are turning out great and that's why I stayed locked in. Worth it to me.

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It seems to me that the culture surrounding lower class minorities which leads to absent fathers and promiscuity is a confounding variable here.

It seems everyone is afraid to ask WHY black parents are so often not married compared to other groups.

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Poverty and later on the drug war. During the Great Depression, the government did a study on what was happening the black community, family units, socio-economics and all that jazz. The study concluded that the black community was at a tipping point and that the dire socio-economic conditions they were in that were greatly worsened during the Great Depression ("First to fire, last to hire" was quite real) threatened to tip them over to the point of no return. The report stated that if nothing was done that US blacks would endure the same form of generational poverty that was already being seen in Appalachia and that much like Appalachia the family unit would break down.

It's eery but it proved to be correct for many (of course, not all of Appalachia is poor just like not all of the black community is poor but both have much higher rates of poverty than the general public).

The drug war hurt as well because it sent fathers and mothers (sometimes both parents at the same time) to prison at an astounding rate and with the crack vs. cocaine sentencing disparity that was often for outrageous periods of time. One thing folks don't often consider when we talk about drugs and drug policy is how absolutely destructive the Drug War has been on families of all colors, especially children.

Staying out of poverty isn't a racial thing either. If you can hit the following marks, your chance of living in poverty is less than 2%:

1) Finish High School
2) Don't have a child or father a child before you are 21
3) Do not commit a felony
4) Do not become an addict

Do these things, and you will be fine. Doesn't matter what race you are.

You have what's basically the ghetto vicious cycle

1. Black girl is rasied in a single parent household and finds what she thinks a black man should be from rap videos and what's on the street corner.


2. Black girl becuase she has no father figure in her life doesn't know how to act in a manner that will attract a well meaning African american man


3. Black girl becuase she is a ghettofied idiot lol and the only people that will put up with her are other ghettofied idiots starts to double down on her ghetto arse beliefs and expects men to act the part or else he isn't man enough for her


4. black men worth a shite take 1 look at her and run the other way, to either a difference race or to a different city or a different woman who is more cultured


5. black woman becuase she is now all ghettoed out lol, is getting ran through by every thug dude on the block and is popping out babies like tic tats all of whom are gonna be single parent household children


6. the black woman's sons will go on the street corner and becuase there is no man that will show the men how to act like men and the women what a good man should look like and act like, will do the same thing momma did


rinse, wash, repeat


Just about every black woman i've tried to date in the last 10-12 years has at one point asked me am I gay . I'm like the most non gay person ever. I'm just not thuggish. I have a real job and I can talk in complete sentences.


I was raised in church. I never dated nothing but black women, CUTE black woman until I was 17. When I was 17 I was in a 8 month relationship with this girl and on our anny, we were supposed to be going out to dinner, keep in mind I'm in HS and shite coming up with money to go out to a nice restaurant was not as easy as it is now.. she stands me up, doesn't call. The next day I find out she went to this house and basically got ran through by like 8 dudes that were all in this gang. Here I am trying to be respectful and shite and take it slow and she's getting trains ran on her and shite


Then to make it worse she not only doesn't say I'm sorry she basically curses me out for "not being black enough and making her do this". I bullshite you not. These are the words that came out of her mouth. "If you acted more black I would not have to go out and find other dudes"


I was working at best buy at the time and there was this cute little white chick who was following me around like a nat for a while but I wasn't paying her any attention I never dated a white girl before. Mexican girls but not white. We started hanging out and she made it as obvious as possible that she wanted the D. Like trying to blow me in a movie theater obvious lol. She was pretty cut eand she ovbiously liked me. she would do shite like come pick me up so i didn't have to waste money on gas lol and cook pancakes and shite lol. I was like you know, how bad can white women be . My last black girlfriend just got gangbanged and called me an uncle tom lol can this really be much worse?

We dated for about 6 months, we were FB's well into our 20's until she decided being a whore was not gonna attract a good man lol.


IF black women weren't so fricking ruthless and stupid more men would marry them.

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Dawg in Beaumont:
Yep. Single parenting is highly correlated with many social problems. The way some conservatives are anti-science on biological issues (evolution), some liberals are anti-science on social science issues (single parent families being a prominent example).

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Not really funny in a "ha ha" way. Funny in a way.

I know that throughout my marriage I have felt like a divorce would be the sanest, surest option toward my pursuit of happiness. Consideration of our children has been the bridge over the difficult waters. You just know inherently that the kids are better off with both parents in one home. You don't need science or syllogisms. We all just know it.

I read an article in SI a few years ago .... at the time they surveyed every black NBA, NFL and MLB player and over 75% were from two parent homes.

That was an even higher average than those considered top 10% white collar blacks which was around 68%.

Kicker is .... both were close to the same for modern whites.