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re: WTF is the deal with Arkansas and national politics?
Posted on 3/14/15 at 9:48 am to Choctaw Hog
Posted on 3/14/15 at 9:48 am to Choctaw Hog
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President Hussein Obama
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brainwashed and ignorant
Posted on 3/14/15 at 9:53 am to Choctaw Hog
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Choctaw Hog
What in the hell are you talking about? Can you even see through your tin foil glasses? Have you even read what Obama is proposing? He's not saying "Hey boys, go ahead and do whatever the frick you want." He threatened to not sign the deal if they don't include "unprecedented transparency" (Obama's words). In an interview with CBS news, he said the following:
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"If there's no deal, then we walk away... If we cannot verify that they are not going to obtain a nuclear weapon, that there's a breakout period so that even if they cheated we would be able to have enough time to take action, if we don't have that kind of deal, then we're not going to take it."
But hey, frick Obama, amirite?
Posted on 3/14/15 at 9:54 am to BarkRuffalo
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Hey guys, remember when Cotton opposed aid to victims of Hurricane Sandy? No?
Reasoning that the 10 billion needed to help American storm victims would raise the national debt.
Yet just wait when the republicans feel confident enough to try to pass a bill to reduce the tax rate on capital gains to zero, thus increasing the national debt by 100's of billions and setting us up for the next republican great depression, Cotton will be the first to sign, just as his Koch owners instruct him to.
Posted on 3/14/15 at 9:56 am to Choctaw Hog
Both parties suck. But what the P5+1 countries are trying to prevent is going to war with Iran over something that doesn't exist and destabilizing another ME country in the process.
Bottom line is this: The military industrial complex is wagging the dog so they can perpetually receive huge amounts of government money. Otherwise they might have to start manufacturing products that actually benefit humanity.
At least Obama has enough sense to not cater to the MIC, unlike Tom Cotton. Oh...and the Iran hysteria is exactly that...hysteria...no different than it was with the political warmongers during the Bush administration with Iraq.
Bottom line is this: The military industrial complex is wagging the dog so they can perpetually receive huge amounts of government money. Otherwise they might have to start manufacturing products that actually benefit humanity.
At least Obama has enough sense to not cater to the MIC, unlike Tom Cotton. Oh...and the Iran hysteria is exactly that...hysteria...no different than it was with the political warmongers during the Bush administration with Iraq.
This post was edited on 3/14/15 at 11:06 am
Posted on 3/14/15 at 9:57 am to PygmalionEffect
But on the bright side, maybe by then republicans will have eliminated all unions so all the middle class blue collar workers that voted for Cotton because he will keep abortion illegal and keep America the land of the free where all people are forced to be Christians, they won't be making enough money to where the increase on their taxes to make up the void from the rich getting a free ride won't really effect them that much.
Posted on 3/14/15 at 10:07 am to SLC
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So, when did Cotton commit treason?
As far as I'm concerned, 3/4 of the elected officials in Washington should be charged with treason. Democrats and Republicans both have completely failed in their duties to govern this country in a responsible manner. Instead, they are ALL focused on lining their pockets and posturing for the next election. To top it all off, this thread has probably already been flagged and is being logged somewhere on an NSA server for keywords such as Obama, Cotton, Washington, and treason. So by all means lets continue to fight over who is a conservative or a liberal, who is more or less patriotic, and pressing issues like gay marriage and oil pipelines.
Enyoy your "freedom" protected by whichever party you think actually gives a frick about you or me.
This post was edited on 3/14/15 at 10:08 am
Posted on 3/14/15 at 10:08 am to PygmalionEffect
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that voted for Cotton because he will keep abortion illegal
I'd like to know the % of folks that voted for him for that specific reason. I'm guessing it's minuscule.
The diehard dems here probably just need to wait a few years and then the pendulum will swing back in their direction. Democrat fatigue and dislike of Obama is why most of the elections turned out as they did.
Posted on 3/14/15 at 10:10 am to piggilicious
Well I don't know if Democrats had that strong of an incumbent with Pryor either.
From the little I know about him, (I don't live in state right now) he wasn't quite as appealing as his father.
From the little I know about him, (I don't live in state right now) he wasn't quite as appealing as his father.
Posted on 3/14/15 at 10:15 am to PygmalionEffect
I grew up a red neck but with a couple of college degrees and so I've been around that uninformed, blue collar, mentality all my life. Incredibly susceptible to propaganda and easily manipulated by the rich.
The church does love their donations.
Political discussions at the deer camp basically go something like "you voted for Obama, I'm going to kick your arse"
The church does love their donations.
Political discussions at the deer camp basically go something like "you voted for Obama, I'm going to kick your arse"
This post was edited on 3/14/15 at 10:16 am
Posted on 3/14/15 at 10:19 am to piggilicious
For that reason only, you are possibly correct but don't doubt for a moment that it is a HEAVY determiner in who many vote for.
As to him being a nutcase, him claiming that ISIS and Mexican drug cartels are working together to destroy Arkansas is enough evidence for me. The letter to Iran is just political grand standing and not really evidence of the need for in patient mental services (or at least no more than 90% of state and national elected officials).
Eventually someone will uncover how he kept some adopted kids locked in a room because they are demon possessed before he gave them away to a rapist or something crazy like that and we won't have to argue about it any longer.
As to him being a nutcase, him claiming that ISIS and Mexican drug cartels are working together to destroy Arkansas is enough evidence for me. The letter to Iran is just political grand standing and not really evidence of the need for in patient mental services (or at least no more than 90% of state and national elected officials).
Eventually someone will uncover how he kept some adopted kids locked in a room because they are demon possessed before he gave them away to a rapist or something crazy like that and we won't have to argue about it any longer.
Posted on 3/14/15 at 10:22 am to Porker Face
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The guy has not legislated anything, he is a granstanding politician quickly becoming a career politician. Problem is he has been job hopping so fast he hasn't been anywhere long enough to ever pass anything meaningful. Thats not leadership. Its politics as usual
Ironically you just described another politician that won a couple of national elections
Posted on 3/14/15 at 10:28 am to PygmalionEffect
Yeah, I don't think Pryor was a bad guy at all but I think maybe he thought his name would just carry him through the election. Not sure he made as strong of a push at first during campaigning- but I may be wrong on that.
Posted on 3/14/15 at 10:34 am to Raz4back
Yep and most Conservatives seem to have no problem calling that type of behavior "washington insider". Wonder if that same logic will be applied to Sen Cotton
Posted on 3/14/15 at 10:48 am to Porker Face
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Yep and most Conservatives seem to have no problem calling that type of behavior "washington insider". Wonder if that same logic will be applied to Sen Cotton
Liberals are the same way. They complain about people not "respecting the office of the Presidency" when Obama is attacked, yet many had no issue when W. was being hung in effigy and was called a murderer.
It isn't a problem with conservatives or liberals, it's a problem with people. They are hypocrites by nature.
This post was edited on 3/14/15 at 10:50 am
Posted on 3/14/15 at 10:55 am to Raz4back
Well I didnt burn any effigys but I also didnt send any letters to foreign governments in violation of the Constitution. The same constitution all Conservatives claim to hold so dearly and the same that Obama is supposedly "trampling on left and right"
It is a problem with people. Of course, I look for more in my leaders. Sen Cotton is, like you just said, a hypocrite like everyone else. Add that to a completely empty list of actual legislative accomplishments to benefit the public and running for higher office before you even let your seat get warm and you have Washington business as usual, not Dardanelle
It is a problem with people. Of course, I look for more in my leaders. Sen Cotton is, like you just said, a hypocrite like everyone else. Add that to a completely empty list of actual legislative accomplishments to benefit the public and running for higher office before you even let your seat get warm and you have Washington business as usual, not Dardanelle
Posted on 3/14/15 at 11:17 am to Porker Face
old testament
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 5:57 pm
Posted on 3/14/15 at 12:28 pm to whataboar
I think the major problems are with perceptions not matching reality.
The perception is that Democrats increase taxes and spending.
The perception is that Republicans decrease taxes and spending.
We know that Republicans decrease taxes, that much is true. Democrats tend to increase taxes or keep them stable. That much is also true. Where it all falls apart is in the spending.
Government spending decreases since 1950:
1953-1954 (Eisenhower)
1954-1955 (Eisenhower)
1964-1965 (Johnson)
2009-2010 (Obama)
2011-2012 (Obama)
2012-2013 (Obama)
Percentage increase in spending over presidencies:
(Calculated by taking the budget of their first year in office i.e. 1969 for Nixon and comparing to last year they were budget responsible, i.e. 1977 for Nixon/Ford)
Nixon/Ford: 15.4% average annual budget increase
Carter: 16.4% average annual budget increase
Reagan: 8.6% average annual budget increase
Bush Sr.: 5.8% average annual budget increase
Clinton: 4.0% average annual budget increase
Bush Jr: 11.1% average annual budget increase
Obama: 0.07% average annual budget decrease (projected end of term 2.5% average annual budget increase)
Those numbers seem close to opposite of the rhetoric and what's campaigned on.
Who knew that the democrats were really the party of fiscal responsibility...
Revenue Changes:
Reagan: 8.2% average annual revenue increase
Bush Sr: 4.1% average annual revenue increase
Clinton: 9.1% average annual revenue increase
Bush Jr: 0.7% average annual revenue increase
Obama: 7.3% average annual revenue increase
Fiscal Responsibility Index (Revenue increase - spending increase (higher is more responsible) Positive Numbers indicate trends that would eliminate deficits, negative numbers would exacerbate deficits.
Obama: 7.3
Clinton: 5.1
Reagan: -0.4
Bush Sr: -1.7
Bush Jr: -10.4
The perception is that Democrats increase taxes and spending.
The perception is that Republicans decrease taxes and spending.
We know that Republicans decrease taxes, that much is true. Democrats tend to increase taxes or keep them stable. That much is also true. Where it all falls apart is in the spending.
Government spending decreases since 1950:
1953-1954 (Eisenhower)
1954-1955 (Eisenhower)
1964-1965 (Johnson)
2009-2010 (Obama)
2011-2012 (Obama)
2012-2013 (Obama)
Percentage increase in spending over presidencies:
(Calculated by taking the budget of their first year in office i.e. 1969 for Nixon and comparing to last year they were budget responsible, i.e. 1977 for Nixon/Ford)
Nixon/Ford: 15.4% average annual budget increase
Carter: 16.4% average annual budget increase
Reagan: 8.6% average annual budget increase
Bush Sr.: 5.8% average annual budget increase
Clinton: 4.0% average annual budget increase
Bush Jr: 11.1% average annual budget increase
Obama: 0.07% average annual budget decrease (projected end of term 2.5% average annual budget increase)
Those numbers seem close to opposite of the rhetoric and what's campaigned on.
Who knew that the democrats were really the party of fiscal responsibility...
Revenue Changes:
Reagan: 8.2% average annual revenue increase
Bush Sr: 4.1% average annual revenue increase
Clinton: 9.1% average annual revenue increase
Bush Jr: 0.7% average annual revenue increase
Obama: 7.3% average annual revenue increase
Fiscal Responsibility Index (Revenue increase - spending increase (higher is more responsible) Positive Numbers indicate trends that would eliminate deficits, negative numbers would exacerbate deficits.
Obama: 7.3
Clinton: 5.1
Reagan: -0.4
Bush Sr: -1.7
Bush Jr: -10.4
This post was edited on 3/14/15 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 3/14/15 at 2:50 pm to SLC
quote:Overblown, yet you agree it's completely unacceptable. lol at that spin
Clearly poorly worded by Cotton but the article is a bit melodramatic or overblown
Posted on 3/14/15 at 2:51 pm to Choctaw Hog
quote:If that's your attitude, you're every bit as bad as the straw man liberals you're ranting about.
You won't get any factual responses from the Liberals because they are too brainwashed and ignorant to know what's really going on.
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quote:I love irony
All I can say is THANK GOD for Senator Tom Cotton and those willing to stand up to traitor we currently have as president.
I don't think Tom Cotton is a traitor, but neither is Obama.
This post was edited on 3/14/15 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 3/14/15 at 3:00 pm to Porky
quote:Correct, and Tom Cotton gets money from defense contractors. What a surprise.
Bottom line is this: The military industrial complex is wagging the dog so they can perpetually receive huge amounts of government money.
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