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re: Worst playcall of the night

Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:59 am to
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 8:59 am to
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If I were an opposing OC, I'd take two knees on first and second down, and on third and long make an easy first down by either running the QB up the middle or passing to the wide open receivers for 25 yards.


This wouldn't be funny if it weren't true. All year, its been tough to get excited about what our D does on 1st & 2nd Downs because we knew there was a good chance we would give up something big on 3rd Down. When Mauk is hurling it up for huge bombs on 3rd Down, you know you have issues.

There is a fundamental problem with our defense and it goes way beyond simply defending HUNH/Spread Teams.
Posted by bbeck
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 9:58 am to
Sims didn't exactly make a great throw there. Part of it is on him. The fact that Kiffin refused to run the ball after we were gashing them is what stands out.
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:44 am to
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I thought we went away from running the ball and it cost us a little. With that being said, I think it was a piss poor throw. He has to put that ball out in front of OJ away from Bell. Or at least put some air under it. He threw it flat and didn't lead him at all.



Agree....Thought we should have keptm running the ball. After the shanked punt especially. Control the clock seeing as tho we couldnt stop their offense. In hindsight, it wasnt a terrible call, Blake just didnt put enough air on the ball.
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 10:48 am to
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Sims didn't exactly make a great throw there. Part of it is on him. The fact that Kiffin refused to run the ball after we were gashing them is what stands out.



This also. They kept 2 safties high. He should have kept running until he forced OSU to drop the safety into the box. I;d love to know why he didnt do that
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83642 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:15 am to
I was sitting in that endzone and looking straight at Howard. The second the ball was snapped I screamed HOWARD IS WIDE OPEN.

He was ridiculously open
Posted by Recruitingjunkie
Member since Jan 2014
3059 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:21 am to
There are several sides to it. Number 1 a I stated before: No excuse for not having a play ready to go after their shanked punt. The fact we had to rush the snap is just unacceptable. Saying that, going for the end zone down 6 with 8 minutes to go from the 20 when running left is gold, is so idiotic that it makes me really have to think deep to how kiffin is such a genius at times but yet a dumbs at others. Even if we had scored off that play, I would have been wondering why we weren't running.

1. Why, after the defense make s huge stop and a huge field position change, do we not have a play ready to go as soon as they step on the field?

2. Why didn't we exhaust more options such as running and just try making it count, instead of going for a low percentage play on a gift?

3. If Sims is going to throw it, throw it better than that. It was a flat line drive with no touch right to Bell. Howard is 6'6" and was behind him. Unacceptable read and throw.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20815 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:41 am to
It kind of reminded me of the Maze throw against LSU in 2011. Yeah, I like that we're going for the throat but in that situation, take the high percentage plays and don't get cute.

You can still like Kiffin and be critical of him. To be honest, many of the criticisms we have from last night have been lingering around for awhile and even predate his tenure.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:49 am to
Honestly, I thought that the worst play calling of the night was right after we stopped OSU's offense and got the ball back after going up 21-6.

1st and 2nd down passes, and a run play on like 3 and 6. 3 and out. I had the feeling that they weren't going to lay down after that. And then they scored like 21 unanswered points.
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
3350 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 11:53 am to
Your 3rd point is the real issue. The guy was open and the throw was bad. If he throws a decent ball at worst it's incomplete.

But yes, would have been nice to work the left side with Henry some more.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5157 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:14 pm to
The fact that the execution was poor doesn't make it an excusable call. It was far too high risk in that scenario.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:20 pm to
yall need to go look at the play again.

Howard was open, but in reality Sims threw it to the wrong receiver. White was wide arse open.

I don't mind the play call.

Looking forward to a new QB next year. It has been fun watching Sims improve but I think he still had a lot of limitations. Coker's cannon could be unreal. Oline should improve. Run game reloads. Secondary may get better athletically with Humphrey and Brown.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:27 pm to
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Looking forward to a new QB next year. It has been fun watching Sims improve but I think he still had a lot of limitations. Coker's cannon could be unreal.


Honestly, if Coker is the guy, I see a lot of "do u miss me yet?" Blake Sims memes in the future.
This post was edited on 1/2/15 at 12:28 pm
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:28 pm to
I don't understand how a call that results in having an open receiver in the end zone can be construed as a bad call.
Posted by 615tider
sidewalk in TN
Member since Oct 2012
3350 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:37 pm to
Kinda my point. I feel like that play is being labeled risky cause of his poor throw. Every pass play is riskier than running it so I guess that was the only solid choice.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20815 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:40 pm to
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Honestly, I thought that the worst play calling of the night was right after we stopped OSU's offense and got the ball back after going up 21-6.


Agreed. The playcall right after the bad punt certainly takes the title of "worst playcall." However, that doesn't mean the game was lost there. To your point, there were multiple times where the playcalling didn't do us any favors considering the down, distance, score, and momentum at that time.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 1/2/15 at 12:44 pm to
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I don't understand how a call that results in having an open receiver in the end zone can be construed as a bad call.



I didn't think it was a bad call per se, but in that situation, i didn't think it was the wisest of playcalls.

I do agree that it should have been a TD, though. Horrible throw by Blake.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5157 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:35 pm to
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Looking forward to a new QB next year. It has been fun watching Sims improve but I think he still had a lot of limitations. Coker's cannon could be unreal


Coker is horribly overrated.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20815 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:40 pm to
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Coker is horribly overrated.


I think the expectations were way to high for him but I don't think he's a bad option. The problem will be a whole new WR group with no Amari.

Blake had his limitation but his scrambling ability was such a huge help to us this year. Going to miss that kind of versatility from the QB position.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:42 pm to
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but lane is not a good play caller


I completely disagree, but I'm not going to argue. We'll see what he does next year with a more traditional QB.
Posted by BrianFantana
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2012
475 posts
Posted on 1/2/15 at 1:50 pm to
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I don't understand how a call that results in having an open receiver in the end zone can be construed as a bad call.



Exactly!! Lane expected Blake to be able to make the right throw. Both Cooper and White were wide open on that play and Blake made a bad throw. It's beyond me why we want to bitch at the coaches while the players just didn't make the plays needed to win the ball game.
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