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Alabama was better, but we lost the SECCG because we were outcoached
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:06 am
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:06 am
period.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:24 am to mizzoukills
Well Bama does have more talent at nearly every position, so that would include coaching staff.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 11:44 am to mizzoukills
Maybe, but if Pinkel and his staff were to switch roles with Alabama coaches and Saban and his staff were coaching Missouri I still think we lose. It may be closer than the box score of this past game but I still think we would lose.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 1:34 pm to mizzoukills
outcoached and outplayed. That is generally the definition of a blowout loss. (water is wet, etc etc)
Posted on 12/9/14 at 3:41 pm to BreakawayZou83
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Great analysis, killz.
Kiffen > Henson
but mostly they were just a lot deeper with big fast athletes
Posted on 12/9/14 at 4:21 pm to MIZ_COU
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Kiffen > Henson
but mostly they were just a lot deeper with big fast athletes
yea it's just a given we aren't going to beat any of the real good teams by "out scheming" them and Pinkels basic concept to not beat yourself with mistakes is fine and all but if you run into a team of 5 star talent who also executes that same concept,,,
then what?
Posted on 12/9/14 at 7:59 pm to Jagd Tiger
42-13 or whatever the score was.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 8:42 pm to mizzoukills
Likely. Bama does have the best HC and staff in CFB, after all.
Posted on 12/9/14 at 10:59 pm to tobythetiger
Better coaching would have led to a two-touchdown loss. There's no way Mizzou could match the horses Bama had on the field.
GP has a gift for getting teams to their ceiling, but Bama's ceiling is still much higher than ours, and Saban's teams live there as well. So it goes...
GP has a gift for getting teams to their ceiling, but Bama's ceiling is still much higher than ours, and Saban's teams live there as well. So it goes...
Posted on 12/10/14 at 10:37 am to mizzoukills
Here's the way I see Coach P's ability and as it relates to the past, others and recruiting;
When it comes to in-game coaching; In the past two years, I've seen monumental strides in comparison to years past. Wins on the road at Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee and A&M probably wouldn't have happened before. Road wins with slight leads, tied or down going into the half was not in the cards prior to the '13 and '14 seasons so he, or his staff, Henson and Steckel are noticing the opposing teams tendencies and making preemptive adjustments accordingly... I personally think it's the latter. No way was that happening before.
That being said, coaching in the SEC is the gold standard in CFB... From the top all the way down to the GA handing out water bottles during TO's, there really are no better staffs in the country. Point being is that HCGP has surrounded himself with good personnel and there are still three to four staffs in the conference that are better... Nick Saben's being one of them.
Recruiting is the fundamental facet where HCGP has to do better and capitalize on our recent success. Other than a shift in game plan from Alabama's O in the first series, I saw nothing from Saturday's game to suggest that there was a huge disparity in coaching other than recruiting. The difference of quality of player on the field for both teams was glaringly obvious. The bams just had bigger, faster and stronger Jimmies. There is a lot to be said for finding the "needle in the haystack" at certain skill positions and developing them in to first round talent, but complimenting them with two handfuls of 2nd, 3rd and 4th round talent would allow us to take the next step... just my two cents.
When it comes to in-game coaching; In the past two years, I've seen monumental strides in comparison to years past. Wins on the road at Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee and A&M probably wouldn't have happened before. Road wins with slight leads, tied or down going into the half was not in the cards prior to the '13 and '14 seasons so he, or his staff, Henson and Steckel are noticing the opposing teams tendencies and making preemptive adjustments accordingly... I personally think it's the latter. No way was that happening before.
That being said, coaching in the SEC is the gold standard in CFB... From the top all the way down to the GA handing out water bottles during TO's, there really are no better staffs in the country. Point being is that HCGP has surrounded himself with good personnel and there are still three to four staffs in the conference that are better... Nick Saben's being one of them.
Recruiting is the fundamental facet where HCGP has to do better and capitalize on our recent success. Other than a shift in game plan from Alabama's O in the first series, I saw nothing from Saturday's game to suggest that there was a huge disparity in coaching other than recruiting. The difference of quality of player on the field for both teams was glaringly obvious. The bams just had bigger, faster and stronger Jimmies. There is a lot to be said for finding the "needle in the haystack" at certain skill positions and developing them in to first round talent, but complimenting them with two handfuls of 2nd, 3rd and 4th round talent would allow us to take the next step... just my two cents.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:26 am to mizzoukills
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mizzoukillsAlabama was better, but we lost the SECCG because we were outcoachedperiod.
At the end of the 1st Quarter your coach knew your players were not going to win , the difference in the SEC West and EAST . The east is in a down cycle and will build back up. But it will take a few more years to get to where The Gators and The Vols used to be . Ga will be better also. How will your team fair when that happens ? And it will happen .
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:38 am to msully
We will be fine. We obviously won't win the east every year like we have the last 2 years, but we will compete for it more times than not and will win it on occasion. Frankly, while the defense was stellar, this might have been the worst Mizzou offense in over a decade and the fact that Mizzou could win the east when Mizzou was down (forget whether the rest of the east was down) should give others some idea.
Most Mizzou fans, prior to the season, would have told you this team was no where near past teams. We usually do have a let down the year we break in a new QB. The fact that we were able to win the east in one of those down years for us speaks volumes and tells me that even when the east is stronger, a stronger Mizzou team will compete just fine in it.
Most Mizzou fans, prior to the season, would have told you this team was no where near past teams. We usually do have a let down the year we break in a new QB. The fact that we were able to win the east in one of those down years for us speaks volumes and tells me that even when the east is stronger, a stronger Mizzou team will compete just fine in it.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 10:39 am to reedus23
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this might have been the worst Mizzou offense in over a decade
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