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re: How to Solve QB Depth Issues?

Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:00 am to
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:00 am to
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My only issue with that is that it seems like Sumlin's system pretty much requires elite QB play to be effective. So


I don't believe that at all. Being elite is not necessary. Being able to get the ball out quickly and willing to take shots down field is what is required. I've seen too many successful spread QBs who would have been extremely average in other systems to believe otherwise.


We all knew this year was going to be a rebuilding year. Sumlin did too. I think that's why he didn't try too hard to keep Joeckel around. Had the defense actually had the needed depth I think he would have had a legit chance to start with Allen possibly getting a red shirt. Since it didn't Sumlin decided it would be best to go with one of the younger kids to build towards the future.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 11:06 am
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:14 am to
agreed. Tech in their heyday and Baylor today have consistently taken lower tier QBs that sat the bench and learned the system inside and out. It doesn't require elite. It requires accuracy, a quick-release, intelligence, and experience. Elite is a bonus.

We have 2 very talented QBs that have the first 3 qualities in spades. What they don't have is experience. Patience daniel san.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:28 am to
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I don't believe that at all. Being elite is not necessary. Being able to get the ball out quickly and willing to take shots down field is what is required. I've seen too many successful spread QBs who would have been extremely average in other systems to believe otherwise.


That is the thing: I don't think Sumlin's system is a typical spread when it comes to that.

Something like an Urban Meyer system seems more what you are talking about (add in a legit run game). For Sumlin is seems like he needs a QB that can make every throw on the field and exploit any weakness the defense gives him. Or be an all-time great scambler.

I mean, what else explains what happened to Kenny? To me it is clear as day that even as early as USC EVERYONE noticed there were throws he couldn't make (I remember us talking about that early), and once we got to a Bama the defense coordinators were taking advantage of that weakness by giving him an opening that would require that throw and nothing else. Kenny goes from our best QB performance ever to out of the job for good within a season, like a Mega Man boss when you have the ability he is weak against.

After that situation, and looking at the success of Case Keenum (another guy who could make every throw), it just seems like anything short of elite completely undoes the "hit them where they are weakest" strategy. We don't have the line play or the RB play to do what a Bama or LSU does, aka "here is what we do best, try and stop us."
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