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re: looking more and more like Sumlin gone after this season to greener pastures
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:16 pm to cardboardboxer
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:16 pm to cardboardboxer
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So the total cost of Sumlin is somewhere around $20 million for the first year.
Is money the only factor here? Sometimes, the call of the NFL is great on these coaches. Personally, I think he hangs around aTm for a few more.
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Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:17 pm to HsvBama
Well there's this
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@aubreyrbloom: Brent Z asked why scheduling is so far in advance, nobody here may be here in ten years. Sumlin interrupts and says "Speak for yourself."
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:19 pm to WestCoastAg
You guys might be in for a let down at some point. Never say you weren't warned.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:19 pm to EKG
why does everyone think the NFL is what all coaches aspire for?
the dynamics of the NFL are soooo much different. so much more "business" aspect to it. totally different fan bases, totally different players, GM's, blah blah blah
Why do you think so many successful college head coaches have NEVER gone to the NFL?
the dynamics of the NFL are soooo much different. so much more "business" aspect to it. totally different fan bases, totally different players, GM's, blah blah blah
Why do you think so many successful college head coaches have NEVER gone to the NFL?
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:19 pm to parkjas2001
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No its not. The only reason Paul Johnson is still at GT is bec of his buyout...it was over 8M last year. It is 5M this year adn they cannot afford to get rid of him. Coach Booms is 7M, Ferentz at Iowa is 11M.
If we fire him his buyout is the entirety of the contract. Not sure why that's relevant here as we obviously aren't firing him.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:19 pm to Tigerdew
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If that cat doesn't take a crack at the NFL eventually he's dumb. I think the way he runs an offense would do really well in the NFL.
he'd already be the 11th highest paid coach in the NFL.
right now there are only a couple teams that could up his pay that might have a new HC next year.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:21 pm to rugbyag
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Show me where Im wrong.
I didn't say you were wrong. Saban certainly lied about his interest in the Alabama job (though it would have been odd for him to say he was considering it).
However,
I don't give a frick. He's not my goddamn moral compass.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:21 pm to polydorr
Thank you for your warning
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:21 pm to EKG
No prob, I really love reading Dr. Norris Camacho at GBH.
Especially when yall are winning.
Dude is a trip.
Especially when yall are winning.
Dude is a trip.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:22 pm to parkjas2001
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No its not. The only reason Paul Johnson is still at GT is bec of his buyout...it was over 8M last year. It is 5M this year adn they cannot afford to get rid of him.
Coach Booms is 7M, Ferentz at Iowa is 11M.
That is a COMPLETELY different buyout. You are talking about the buyout if a coach is FIRED. That is not what I am talking about. For Sumlin, the fired buyout is something like $20+ million.
What I am talking about is the amount ANOTHER team would pay if they took our coach. Normally "big" buyouts of this type top out at $2 million. We offered him a TON of guaranteed money (so the fired buyout) if he agreed to a $5 million buyout to prevent poaching while our stadium is being redone.
That is why these "Sumlin to the NFL" threads don't really get to us. We made a contract last year to prevent this EXACT scenario from happening until after 2016. It is a very unique contract meant to screw some team (NFL or college) trying to steal Sumlin.
Now after the 2016 season, the buyout goes from $5 million to nothing. So if he is going to leave, it will probably be after another season and a half.
This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:24 pm to HsvBama
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Is money the only factor here?
For us, yes. Doesn't matter how great the "call of the NFL" is. If Sumlin answers that call before the end of the 2016 season we get $5 million. Period. It is in black and white as part of an enforceable contract.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:25 pm to cardboardboxer
Which means we will throw a shitload of money at somebody else and we will have the stacked roster Sumlin set us up with
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:26 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Hope the SECW likes bbc as much as we do
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:28 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Exactly! That $5 million would add to the $5 million we pay Sumlin to give us a free $10 million to hire whoever we want.
That is the irony about the "Sumlin to ______" concept. The whole hope behind that is that when he leaves we will fall back into "our place."
But that ship has sailed. "Our place" got demolished and replaced by a much better place with higher floors and ceilings.
That is the irony about the "Sumlin to ______" concept. The whole hope behind that is that when he leaves we will fall back into "our place."
But that ship has sailed. "Our place" got demolished and replaced by a much better place with higher floors and ceilings.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:32 pm to cardboardboxer
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"Our place" got demolished and replaced by a much better place with higher floors and ceilings.
And in a far better neighborhood than before 2012.
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:34 pm to cardboardboxer
yall sure are some positive mother frickers. must be all the jars aka "Butters Creamy Goo" that makes you happy
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:34 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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must be all the jars aka "Butters Creamy Goo" that makes you happy
It's far more potent than that
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:35 pm to skrangeo
until the cowboys offer him 5 million a year to go to the Pros and not have to deal with the NCAA or recruiting
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:37 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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This post was edited on 9/30/14 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 9/30/14 at 1:42 pm to polydorr
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You guys might be in for a let down at some point. Never say you weren't warned.
Where have I heard this before?
"The best player who's ever played for your school is now in the NFL. You'll never replace him."
Eventually, for whatever reason, Sumlin won't be the HC at A&M--some other swagaholic will be.
No one is irreplaceable.
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