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re: Dan Skipper and Jim Chaney
Posted on 9/27/14 at 9:19 pm to Gladius Veritas
Posted on 9/27/14 at 9:19 pm to Gladius Veritas
eh I think our play calling was pretty good, not great, but good enough to win comfortably. we win and nobody's questioning the play calling
take away a sophomore LT tripping call and a freshman center bobbled snap we win. two young players making young player mistakes. the problem wasn't the plays being called, it was the players not executing
take away a sophomore LT tripping call and a freshman center bobbled snap we win. two young players making young player mistakes. the problem wasn't the plays being called, it was the players not executing
This post was edited on 9/27/14 at 9:22 pm
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Posted on 9/27/14 at 9:21 pm to TheAggiesOverlord
Agreed outside of the awkward three minute offense.
Posted on 9/27/14 at 9:24 pm to TheAggiesOverlord
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eh I think our play calling was pretty good take away a sophomore LT tripping call and a freshman center bobbled snap we win. two young players making young player mistakes. the problem was the players not executing, not the plays being called imo
Gotta disagree.
Passing on all downs late in the fourth clinging to a lead and needing to run clock.
Sweeps on third and short.
A pass play on third and short.
A 2 minute offense that gave them the ball right back quickly and almost lost the game in regulation.
The playcalling in the second half was atrocious. Even Danielson was freaking out about us lining up in the shotgun and not running the clock late in the game.
This post was edited on 9/27/14 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 9/27/14 at 9:31 pm to Gladius Veritas
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would not mind seeing Chaney leave after this season
Support.
There are hundreds of coaches who could run this offense better than he does with fewer boneheaded calls in compromising situations.
I'm amazed that Bert has time to do anything else on the sideline given that he has to spend all game trying to keep Chaney from running quintuple reverse halfback flea flickers on 1st and goal out of the wildcat.
With Pittman's line and our backfield, we would win 8 games this year if we had an innovative offensive coordinator who could wring some decent passing schemes out of 22 and 21 personnel and not call plays like a moron.
Posted on 9/27/14 at 9:34 pm to Feral
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Passing on all downs late in the fourth clinging to a lead and needing to run clock.
Sweeps on third and short.
A pass play on third and short.
A 2 minute offense that gave them the ball right back quickly and almost lost the game in regulation.
The playcalling in the second half was atrocious. Even Danielson was freaking out about us lining up in the shotgun and not running the clock late in the game.
like I said it wasn't great, but it was good enough to win comfortably.
calling passing plays like chaney did is a double edged sword. he calls a running play, get stuffed, 3 and out, chaney is accused of going ultra conservative and playing not to lose, nutt 2.0 etc. chaney took what the defense gave him, the players just didn't execute, which can be fixed
Posted on 9/27/14 at 9:46 pm to TheAggiesOverlord
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calling passing plays like chaney did is a double edged sword. he calls a running play, get stuffed, 3 and out, chaney is accused of going ultra conservative and playing not to lose, nutt 2.0 etc. chaney took what the defense gave him, the players just didn't execute, which can be fixed
Not really, outside of the Hogville morons.
You have to dance with what brought you -- if running is where our bread is buttered, why go away from that especially if we need to milk clock?
Posted on 9/27/14 at 10:41 pm to ocelot4ark
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Jim Chaney
What I'm thinking, I'm not going to say at the moment...but it's not good.
Posted on 9/27/14 at 11:20 pm to ocelot4ark
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Say what you will about Bert, but that was Houston Nutt playing not to lose reincarnate. frick this pussy staff.
Yep. frick the staff. Shoulda won at least 2-3 more games last year if not for shite arse coaching during the game.
Posted on 9/27/14 at 11:27 pm to SmackoverHawg
only once did I question chaney, then BB took over the final call of running and getting stuffed as per CBB on Twitter..
I haven't lost my support of Chaney.. Yet.
Remember the passes and the calls that worked all game as well. Some of it was awesome, and just think how much more would have worked without the dumb penalties. Cant blame this on Chaney.
Fundamentals were missing all over imho. It is coming, Patience is the key now that I have had time to process..
I haven't lost my support of Chaney.. Yet.
Remember the passes and the calls that worked all game as well. Some of it was awesome, and just think how much more would have worked without the dumb penalties. Cant blame this on Chaney.
Fundamentals were missing all over imho. It is coming, Patience is the key now that I have had time to process..
Posted on 9/27/14 at 11:38 pm to Feral
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playcalling in the second half was atrocious. Even Danielson was freaking out about us lining up in the shotgun and not running the clock late in the game.
This. Poor fricking coaching.
Posted on 9/27/14 at 11:45 pm to SmackoverHawg
The bootleg pass to the TE was basically the only pass play called the last 2 or 3 possessions. And the TE always caught the ball 2 or 3 yards before the stick 
Posted on 9/27/14 at 11:55 pm to RunningBlake
Yeah calling that play in OT was pretty suspect. Really my only complaint on Chaney has been his propensity to go back to the well a little too often. I think that's why teams adjust so well to us in the second half. He likes to go back to what worked and they've since adjusted to what he was exploiting.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 10:31 am to Razorback Reverend
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I haven't lost my support of Chaney.. Yet.
Remember the passes and the calls that worked all game as well. Some of it was awesome, and just think how much more would have worked without the dumb penalties. Cant blame this on Chaney.
Chaney sucked at other times, too. His play calling is fricking stupid as dog shite. Can we get some Matt Canada or someshit?
We ran a fricking reverse to a TE. You can't get cutesy playing teams like that if your base offense is driving you down the field. Instead of a reverse, how about naked bootlegs 5 times a game MINIMUM to our great receiving TE's? How about play action down the middle of the field to a wide open receiver, which has been pretty consistently open for us?
Nope. We're going to try to "trick" the defense instead of just running some basic plays that would be more effective considering our run game. I don't see why they thought a reverse would work this game given the Aggie defensive approach.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 10:35 am to ocelot4ark
I agree on the bootlegs. We seem to be a team well built for that type of play yet we rarely run it, and when we do it's to the short side of the field with the crossing route going the opposite direction and no deep outlet or backside WR sprint.
Posted on 9/28/14 at 10:38 am to TheAggiesOverlord
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eh I think our play calling was pretty good, not great, but good enough to win comfortably. we win and nobody's questioning the play calling
Overall yes, but in crucial situations were we need to run time off? Why pass? And why run out of obvious passing formations in which BA's completion percentage is jack shite. Keep the ball on the ground. Play action. frick it...3rd and 8 or less? I like our chances on the ground over the air. D isn't gonna stack the line. Half expecting pass. If it don't work, it'll open up play action on 3rd down later. At least a fricking draw. PLAY TO YOUR STRENGTHS!!! Not your weakness. BA having to drop back or out of the shotgun and having to find a receiver is not it. It is what it is. frick what you "should" do. Do what you can do!!
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:20 am to BillyBobPorkin
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Stupid mistakes by PLAYERS costs us this game
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:24 am to ArHog
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quote:Stupid mistakes by PLAYERS costs us this game
Whose job is it to make sure players don't make stupid mistakes?
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:56 am to SmackoverHawg
I've always thought of Chaney as a "Paul Petrino" type. He's been around a lot of successful coaches and complex offenses. And he knows a lot about the dynamics of X's and O's. But on game day, against quality opponents, he cannot put it all together by making it function in a successful manner through improvisation and making the right adjustments at the right times. He can't seem to get it done "on-the-fly".
This post was edited on 9/28/14 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:00 pm to Porky
I'd actually rather have some elite world class level Madden gamer calling plays than Chaney.
Give the best Madden player in the world a couple months to learn the playbook, put him up in the booth with Chaney, call him an offensive quality control assistant, and let him rip these defenses to shreds
Give the best Madden player in the world a couple months to learn the playbook, put him up in the booth with Chaney, call him an offensive quality control assistant, and let him rip these defenses to shreds
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:02 pm to CtotheVrzrbck
Play calling is not quite that simple.
Also the "elite" Madden players are cheesy as frick.
Also the "elite" Madden players are cheesy as frick.
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