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ATL Hawks Owner Looks to Sell because of "Racist Email"
Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:22 pm
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In this world of political correctness, i think we are really losing the ability to observe and speak our minds.
See article attached. I read it and it reads to me that he wants to bring a broader fan base to the hawks instead of 70% black. That would appear to be an attempt to be more inclusive and good marketing.
But, because of this Donald Sterling nonsense, its seen as racist?
WTF?
In this world of political correctness, i think we are really losing the ability to observe and speak our minds.
See article attached. I read it and it reads to me that he wants to bring a broader fan base to the hawks instead of 70% black. That would appear to be an attempt to be more inclusive and good marketing.
But, because of this Donald Sterling nonsense, its seen as racist?
WTF?
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:22 pm to Pavoloco83
OTB
Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:23 pm to Pavoloco83
This is definitely the right board for ATL Hawks.
Posted on 9/7/14 at 12:43 pm to Pavoloco83
Why does this guy's email read like some shorthanded rant I would find on facebook?
Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:19 pm to Pavoloco83
That was a very not racist, but business minded email. Not an "opinion" in the email, just facts.
**** political correctness.
**** Adam Silver for being a gaping vagina.
**** Donald Sterling for being a racist and opening this can of worms.
**** political correctness.
**** Adam Silver for being a gaping vagina.
**** Donald Sterling for being a racist and opening this can of worms.
Posted on 9/7/14 at 1:41 pm to Pavoloco83
PC is being used to control debate and discussion. If you limit the subjects allowed to be discussed, you can push through agendas and ideology without thoughtful and thorough debate.
Posted on 9/7/14 at 2:08 pm to Pavoloco83
What's the issue here? The guy is calling himself racist and stepping down of his own volition. Perhaps his conscious is guilty, maybe due to his thoughts being way more racist than the e-mail was.
Posted on 9/7/14 at 9:45 pm to Pavoloco83
Three things:
1.) Business-wise, I understand what he's saying. He wants to maximize profits as an owner, and seeks to do that by shifting the marketing focus to a specific demographic. Businesses do this all the time without major ethical quandaries.
2.) The manner in which he presented his position in the email did come across as very anti-black. You want to broaden your marketing horizons, fine. But don't present a message that boils down to "there are too many black people attending games and represented on the jumbotron or on the cheer squad for us to be successful." That is what I got from reading his email.
3.) Why the frick did this come out now, anyways? Blackmail is obviously afoot.
Bottom line: I wouldn't put the Hawks' owner's email in the same category as Sterling's remarks. This guy just needs a refresher in business ethics.
1.) Business-wise, I understand what he's saying. He wants to maximize profits as an owner, and seeks to do that by shifting the marketing focus to a specific demographic. Businesses do this all the time without major ethical quandaries.
2.) The manner in which he presented his position in the email did come across as very anti-black. You want to broaden your marketing horizons, fine. But don't present a message that boils down to "there are too many black people attending games and represented on the jumbotron or on the cheer squad for us to be successful." That is what I got from reading his email.
3.) Why the frick did this come out now, anyways? Blackmail is obviously afoot.
Bottom line: I wouldn't put the Hawks' owner's email in the same category as Sterling's remarks. This guy just needs a refresher in business ethics.
Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:33 am to Pavoloco83
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My theory is that the black crowd scared away the whites and there are simply not enough affluent black fans to build a signficant season ticket base. Please dont get me wrong. There was nothing threatening going on in the arean back then. i never felt uncomfortable, but i think southern whites simply were not comfortable being in an arena or at a bar where they were in the minority. On fan sites i would read comments about how dangerous it is around philips yet in our 9 years, i don't know of a mugging or even a pick pocket incident. This was just racist garbage. When I hear some people saying the arena is in the wrong place I think it is code for there are too many blacks at the games.
As a former Atlantan I have to say he's correct about that. Is it right that people view the Hawks this way? Probably not but that perception exists. I don't remember any white people ever going to Hawks games. I've been to a game once, 20 years ago with a friend who was Obamixed, other than that nope, just one game. Been to more Braves games than I can count and Turner field is in a worse area, crime wise, than Philips.
I'm not a racist, I just don't like Basketball very much. Too much scoring.
This post was edited on 9/8/14 at 12:34 am
Posted on 9/8/14 at 5:29 am to Pavoloco83
Would people really not go to a game because of the black crowd? If you lived in Atlanta what would you even do? Never leave buckhead?
I think that is the racist part. You want to cater to the season ticket buying demo, you just appeal to bros. You don't just focus on making it less black. A kiss cam being too black? What does that mean? A white guy isn't going to buy season tickets because a black couple is kissing? Dumb. And racist, IMO.
Whites are more affluent and more likely to buy season tickets. That's not racist, really.
I guess it comes down to his motives. Was it purely fiscal? Or did he feel it was too black of an environment? I'm not that worried about it. If this is where we are having race arguments now, we are in a much better place. Can you imagine how this email would have read 40 years ago?
I think that is the racist part. You want to cater to the season ticket buying demo, you just appeal to bros. You don't just focus on making it less black. A kiss cam being too black? What does that mean? A white guy isn't going to buy season tickets because a black couple is kissing? Dumb. And racist, IMO.
Whites are more affluent and more likely to buy season tickets. That's not racist, really.
I guess it comes down to his motives. Was it purely fiscal? Or did he feel it was too black of an environment? I'm not that worried about it. If this is where we are having race arguments now, we are in a much better place. Can you imagine how this email would have read 40 years ago?
Posted on 9/8/14 at 1:47 pm to Pavoloco83
Play some Michael Jackson music and you won't have any problem( no more black people music).
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