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Posted on 8/26/14 at 3:56 pm to joeyb147
I thought the entire issue was concern for the safety of the players. Where did that go?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:16 pm to RT1941
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What if it looks like refs are running at breakneck speed to get the ball set
My question is this: Shouldn't it be like this all the time, whether the offense is in hurry-up mode or not? Since they instituted a 40-second clock, then the refs should be trying to let whoever is on offense take full advantage of those 40 seconds on every play.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:21 pm to RT1941
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What if it looks like refs are running at breakneck speed to get the ball set so that the players and sideline coaches will stop screaming and yelling at them to hurry up? Will he keep his job?
Officals were not running at breakneck speed until after the play was dead and the ball marked. During a normal play, they run toward the huddle (5-10 yrds on average). Where the sense of urgency came into play was after the ball was blown dead. Officials were not getting back in position because they were use to taking 10-20 secs to do so in the past. The officals will be watched closely from both sides this year.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:27 pm to Outside looking in
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Sorry. Arkansas football is just so forgettable...
How many Arkansas SEC Championships have I forgotten???
we probably have more conference championships than the barn. You are showing your age. College football didn't start in 1992 and the SEC was Bama and the 7 little dwarfs when the SWC was rolling with the pony express texas Ark. A&m and Houston was even top 25 with back to back Heisman qb's. tuffin' up buttercup and quit whacking off in mama's bathroom.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:32 pm to Irons Puppet
Frick off refs.
You do not dictate the speed of the game. You call the game that is played in front of you.
Hurry up offense is and always has been part of the game. Only difference is now teams are running it all game instead of only for 2 minute drill.
If they need to add a ref or hire younger faster ones, do it.
You do not dictate the speed of the game. You call the game that is played in front of you.
Hurry up offense is and always has been part of the game. Only difference is now teams are running it all game instead of only for 2 minute drill.
If they need to add a ref or hire younger faster ones, do it.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:36 pm to NickSabanRules
If the refs can't keep up then find some who can. If the offensive players can compete for a play and then get lined up and go again then everyone else on the field should have to keep up or not get on the field. That goes for refs and defenders.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 4:38 pm
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:43 pm to Rabern57
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f the refs can't keep up then find some who can. If the offensive players can compete for a play and then get lined up and go again then everyone else on the field should have to keep up or not get on the field. That goes for refs and defenders.
The officials have spoken - football will not become basketball on grass no matter how much HUNH coaches scream at them. It's done, it's over, deal with it.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:47 pm to elposter
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The officials have spoken - football will not become basketball on grass no matter how much HUNH coaches scream at them. It's done, it's over, deal with it
Officals do not dictate how football is played. In the SEC there are 9 Fastpace Offenses and 2 Traditional Offenses. If the Officals try to slow it down, they will be watching it on TV next year.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:51 pm to Irons Puppet
I'm not totally ok with the refs dictating the pace of play, but if they do….then I'll suggest a corollary to the rule that if the offense substitutes the defense is given time to substitute.
I'll suggest: If the offense doesn't substitute the defense cannot substitute.
I'll suggest: If the offense doesn't substitute the defense cannot substitute.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:51 pm to Irons Puppet
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Officals do not dictate how football is played.
Yeah, they kind of do.
And apparently they are going to make an effort to control the between snap pace enough to make sure they are in position when the ball is snapped. According to Redding there were times when they were not doing so and it's going to be a focus.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:52 pm to elposter
quote:All the officials have done is said they are lazy. They have as much say as players in what happens. All they can do is complain.
The officials have spoken - football will not become basketball on grass no matter how much HUNH coaches scream at them. It's done, it's over, deal with it.
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Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:54 pm to elposter
pawwwwllll but what about Malzahn trademarking hunh? I wonder what happened to the guy that trademarked hypercolor shirts.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 4:57 pm to Rabern57
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No. All the officials have done is said they are lazy. They have as much say as players in what happens.
Sorry, you are wrong. Players can't spot the ball. Officials have more say in this regard. If the officials decide to slow it down a bit to make sure they are spotting the ball accurately, getting the chains set, and getting in position, then they will.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 5:00 pm to elposter
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Yeah, they kind of do.
And apparently they are going to make an effort to control the between snap pace enough to make sure they are in position when the ball is snapped. According to Redding there were times when they were not doing so and it's going to be a focus.
My point is: They will be replaced if they try becoming bigger than the game. They know their place and what College Football Execs want to see. RR, Bert and Saban tried to change things this spring, and the public outcry caused them to tuck their tails and run. I do not see them making that same mistake.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 5:01 pm to elposter
quote:I'm talking about rule changes. But refs still have a standard to keep and they won't be dragging around for nearly 10 seconds or enough time for subs like Saban wants.
Sorry, you are wrong. Players can't spot the ball. Officials have more say in this regard. If the officials decide to slow it down a bit to make sure they are spotting the ball accurately, getting the chains set, and getting in position, then they will.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 5:04 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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Line up and see whos better not who can try to get a cheap play in before the D sets up.
If the O was set up, why wasn't the D?
Lazy?
Inattentive?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 5:04 pm to Irons Puppet
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My point is: They will be replaced if they try becoming bigger than the game.
They will slow it down to a pace they determine allows them to effectively officiate the game. I'm not talking about intentionally going unreasonably slow. I'm talking about having a standard and not getting caught up in the HUNH coaches influencing them to go faster than that.
It really shouldn't be that controversial of a stance that the officials are taking. Everyone should want them to be get the ball spotted properly, get the chains set, get in position, etc.
Posted on 8/26/14 at 5:06 pm to NickSabanRules
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The problem was, refs were missing penalties because they were hurrying too much and were out of position. Refs were hurrying up getting the ball in play for HUNH teams. Wasn't right. Supposedly they fixed this problem.
So will they be missing penalties when a team is behind 10 pts with five minutes in the game and goes hurry-up to have a chance to win?
Or will they just not allow that team to have a chance to win? Five minutes left, game over?
Posted on 8/26/14 at 5:08 pm to Rabern57
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I'm talking about rule changes.
Why are you talking about rule changes. This thread is not about rule changes.
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But refs still have a standard to keep and they won't be dragging around for nearly 10 seconds or enough time for subs like Saban wants.
Why are you talking about Saban? Redding indicated that the officials don't believe they were able to do their jobs as effectively when they succumbed to HUNH coaches desires to put the ball in faster than the officials could perform their between snap obligations. They are going to change that. They aren't going to intentionally go slow, they just aren't going to intentionally speed up just because the offense wants to anymore.
This post was edited on 8/26/14 at 5:09 pm
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