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re: Lawrence Lee

Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:48 pm to
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:48 pm to
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I'm wondering if it's possible he's been focusing on doing little things he hasn't mastered yet.


That's kinda what fine tuning is about, plus the coaches have said as much, he's working on checking down more. Also the TE's have been getting thrown to a good amount. Looks like Reese and Culkin are going to be getting work.
Posted by Remote Controlled
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 12:34 am to
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Touch and cerebral ability (in game intuition) are most definitely not coachable traits.


Touch is most certainly coachable.

If a good coach sees that it can be done, that coach can teach it. Think of all the things you've been coached up at in hockey, most likely those were things you didn't have a lot of innate ability towards.

It's a truism for any sport.

Now, it's just up to the mizzou coaches to show him the way.
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 12:36 am
Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 4:38 am to
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It's funny, Brad Smith actually had great "touch", Chase didn't have the strength to throw on the run, he couldn't hit a 20 yarder very easily if his feet weren't planted. Gabbert had no touch at all and with his arm strength that was a problem. Franklin was all over the place, one week he had "it" the next he was rubber arming it like the last beaker game.

At this point I have more faith in Mauk than just about any QB since Phil Bradley, I think he can be a "do it all" guy. Run like the wind, hit the bomb and roll out and plant it on a receivers finger tips.

That said, so might Prinz, and Lock may be the best ever.


I couldn't agree with this more.

The only potential problem I can foresee with Mauk is that he'll try to do too much and force things.

Otherwise, he looks like the special kind of quarterback who elevates the play of those around him.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 6:47 am to
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Maybe, I hope, he'll be adequate with his short yard passes, but it will never be his forte.

So you arrived at this based on his redshirt FR year? WOW, I didn't know that people could never improve.
Posted by CoMo_Tiger
Columbia, MO
Member since Aug 2014
155 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 2:33 pm to
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Touch and cerebral ability (in game intuition) are most definitely not coachable traits.


I agree that cerebral ability cannot be coached or acquired in any way. That is something that you are born with, and Maty has had it since day 1.

Touch, on the other hand, can absolutely be worked on. If you look at Mauk's high school highlight tape, you don't see a lot of short passes because they were never needed. I would bet anything that his Touch is better now than it was as a true freshman.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 6:05 pm to
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Touch is most certainly coachable.

If a good coach sees that it can be done, that coach can teach it. Think of all the things you've been coached up at in hockey, most likely those were things you didn't have a lot of innate ability towards.

It's a truism for any sport.



I love ya, but no.

Can you teach someone soft hands? The answer is empirically no.

Soft hands and touch are in the same vein, they're natural gifts, not things that can be coached into a player.

All things I was taught with hockey was about technique and systems, my natural abilities weren't taught and they couldn't have been taught, they were genetic, hands run in the family.

Why do such a small percentage of guys in the NHL have really soft hands, why is it special when a guy has vision to see plays? Bc those things are natural gifts. If it was coachable more would have it.
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 6:08 pm to
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Touch, on the other hand, can absolutely be worked on. If you look at Mauk's high school highlight tape, you don't see a lot of short passes because they were never needed.


I agree it can be worked on, and believe he's a good enough athlete to become adequate at short yard passes that require touch. I just don't believe you can turn someone without touch into someone that really has it.
Posted by Live4MIZ
KC
Member since Jul 2014
233 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 6:42 pm to
Excited to see both Lee and Nate Brown play down the road.
Posted by CoMo_Tiger
Columbia, MO
Member since Aug 2014
155 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:52 pm to
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I agree it can be worked on, and believe he's a good enough athlete to become adequate at short yard passes that require touch. I just don't believe you can turn someone without touch into someone that really has it.


Just like any other trait, every player has a different ceiling for each trait. For example, Mauk will never have the touch of Chase Daniel. But to say that it cannot be improved upon is foolish
Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
8488 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:11 pm to
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Just like any other trait, every player has a different ceiling for each trait. For example, Mauk will never have the touch of Chase Daniel. But to say that it cannot be improved upon is foolish



Did I say it can't be improved upon?
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:36 pm to
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The only potential problem I can foresee with Mauk is that he'll try to do too much and force things.


but isn't that some of what makes Mauk, Mauk? I mean isn't that some of the "it" factor he possess's?

While he doesn't need to go for it all the time, to me the real danger is that the coaches stifle that in him and he stops going for it at all. If they brow beat him too much about completion percentage and fear of interceptions, rather than allowing him to take a risk and throw deep. That style has served him well so far.

After all the concept of going deep is as much a mental aspect vs the competition, it's not the attempt of a deep pass that makes it dangerous, it's the ACTUALLY being able to complete it that makes it dangerous.

A lot of this is where I part ways with Pinkels philosophy of nothing but slow, steady methodical ball control. It's like all he wants to do is move the chains 10 yards at a time and kill the clock from the opening kickoff. After adopting the spread he doesn't seem to want to utilize the full idea behind it and use the entire field.

Maybe it's a holdover from his days of playing and coaching in Big Ten territory but his game approach would be better suited for a power running game than a run loose and wild spread system. The worry of running the score up and needing to take the foot off the gas is a concept that should never enter his mind, and one that limits him.

When you come out and punch them in the nose on the first series the way he did to the Gators last year, that sends a message, "yea it's gonna be a long day for you.. pal".. that's the kind of Mauk-sy I like to see!


Posted by Sleeping Tiger
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 4:46 pm to
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but isn't that some of what makes Mauk, Mauk? I mean isn't that some of the "it" factor he possess's?




Mauk is like Maverick from Top Gun, we know.

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A lot of this is where I part ways with Pinkels philosophy of nothing but slow, steady methodical ball control.


Umm what? I knew you's was a re-tard.

Write less, mmkay.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
19232 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:56 pm to
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but isn't that some of what makes Mauk, Mauk? I mean isn't that some of the "it" factor he possess's?

While he doesn't need to go for it all the time, to me the real danger is that the coaches stifle that in him and he stops going for it at all. If they brow beat him too much about completion percentage and fear of interceptions, rather than allowing him to take a risk and throw deep. That style has served him well so far.

After all the concept of going deep is as much a mental aspect vs the competition, it's not the attempt of a deep pass that makes it dangerous, it's the ACTUALLY being able to complete it that makes it dangerous.

A lot of this is where I part ways with Pinkels philosophy of nothing but slow, steady methodical ball control. It's like all he wants to do is move the chains 10 yards at a time and kill the clock from the opening kickoff. After adopting the spread he doesn't seem to want to utilize the full idea behind it and use the entire field.


Hopefully this is where Henson earns his pay.

Mauk reminds me of a young Brett Favre in terms of his gambling ways and ability to thread the needle.

When Favre had Mike Holmgren in his ear to reign him in just a little, he was the best quarterback in the NFL. Once Holmgren left, Favre was allowed to indulge his undisciplined tendencies and became a punchline; known more for ill-timed picks in crunch time than the great QB he still was (see Minnesota 2009 with Brad Childress reigning him in a tad).

My hope is Henson reels Mauk in just enough to harness the stallion he is.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 5:58 pm
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:14 pm to
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Umm what? I knew you's was a re-tard.

Write less, mmkay.



lol,, "mmkay"

.. sure

isn't it "you's wasa retard".. seems like that was what you were searching for, keep trying, someday you may say something relevant.


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My hope is Henson reels Mauk in just enough to harness the stallion he is.


agree, fine tune his tendencies rather than change, them, let's face it, Mizzou will need a lot of offense if we are to come anywhere near another trip to Atl.

This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 6:20 pm
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