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re: Are there any Sec teams that recruit with full honesty and integrity?

Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:30 am to
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:30 am to
It seems that currently Emmert & the NCAA have much more important shite to worry about than shady recruiting... lawsuits, the Power 5 breaking away etc...
Posted by RollTigers
Member since Dec 2010
3274 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 9:58 am to
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Are there any Sec teams that recruit with full honesty and integrity?






Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
56273 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:38 am to
Les Miles and his staff is the only staff in the SEC that I can think of that recruits with full honesty and integrity.


Les
Posted by Wanderin Reb
Gallifrey
Member since Jun 2013
10738 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:37 am to
Freeze's staff cheats out of love.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:44 am to
I just don't see it. If Arkansas was cheating, I'd expect our recruiting to be higher. If Kentucky were cheating, I'd expect their recruiting to be higher.

If we were going to cheat, why don't we ever have one of those Ole Miss type recruiting epiphanies? Oh, all of the sudden we're landing multiple 5 star guys out of nowhere. Ho hum.

Posted by DCRebel
An office somewhere
Member since Aug 2009
17644 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 12:13 pm to
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recruit with full honesty and integrity


What does this mean?
Posted by Open Dore Policy
The Commodore State
Member since Oct 2012
4472 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 4:07 pm to
The Franklin move on Josh Dawson was a dick move.

I do hope we beat him and Georgia additionally for his remaining 3 years anyway.
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 6:52 pm to
I'm actually going to give an honest answer here. While I can't speak for the assistants, I have no problem believing that Miles at LSU, Saban at Bama, and Richt at UGA base their recruiting pitches on how they can benefit the recruit, letting their respective programs' football reputation speak for themselves. I honestly doubt Miles and Saban especially bother much with negative recruiting. They'd consider it beneath them, not so much because they're inherently moral but because they've had enough success to possess that touch of justified arrogance that would make them shy away from relying on bashing other schools.

I'd say the same about Spurrier, but I have trouble believing he doesn't get off a few zingers even when he doesn't actually feel the need to do so. He's a talker.
Posted by reb13
Member since May 2010
10905 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 8:53 pm to
I doubt any head coach cheats, that's why you have a fall man.
Posted by SoGaFan
Member since Jan 2008
5956 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 10:48 pm to
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I'm actually going to give an honest answer here. While I can't speak for the assistants, I have no problem believing that Miles at LSU, Saban at Bama, and Richt at UGA base their recruiting pitches on how they can benefit the recruit, letting their respective programs' football reputation speak for themselves. I honestly doubt Miles and Saban especially bother much with negative recruiting. They'd consider it beneath them, not so much because they're inherently moral but because they've had enough success to possess that touch of justified arrogance that would make them shy away from relying on bashing other schools.

I'd say the same about Spurrier, but I have trouble believing he doesn't get off a few zingers even when he doesn't actually feel the need to do so. He's a talker.


Well, Saban just lets Kirby go negative for him.

Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:03 am to
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Well, Saban just lets Kirby go negative for him.


I have no idea, which is why I clarified that I can't speak for the assistants. I'm sure all HCs, even the most upstanding, positive-sell ones, have an assistant or two who'll get their hands dirty with the seamier side of negative recruiting.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19670 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:07 am to
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Vandebilt maybe ?
franklin was the biggest sleazeball in the game. i thought lsu was completely clean
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 12:10 am to
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franklin was the biggest sleazeball in the game. i thought lsu was completely clean


Probably a little excessive. He was a schmoozer, to be sure, and certainly a bit of an a-hole, but I don't think he was actually sleazier than the average younger HC trying to connect with high school players.
Posted by dlc83
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
1829 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 9:52 am to
NO.
The SEC has the well deserved reputation for "creativity" in recruiting. It is proud of it ("if you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'"). Remember the laughter when the BIG coaches were crying and whining about Urban and his staff's methods and SEC type of recruiting?
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:01 am to
please tell me you're actually a UNC fan
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32775 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:01 am to
Lol no
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 10:02 am to
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franklin was the biggest sleazeball in the game. i thought lsu was completely clean

nah, LSU isn't completely clean.

I mean, we're no Ole Miss, but we're not completely clean.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37578 posts
Posted on 8/1/14 at 11:07 am to
It's a well-known fact that SCAR, and (the) Spurrier(s), run the cleanest recruiting program, not just in the SEC but in the entire country, if not the entire world.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30589 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 7:28 am to
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As long as schools and the NCAA are stealing from the players
Nobody's stealing from anybody. Every recruit knows that they're exchanging their talent for an opportunity for an education and a shot at the league...a very childish statement.
Posted by tobythetiger
Missouri
Member since Oct 2013
428 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 7:53 am to
Mizzou and Gary Pinkel. There's never any hint of scandal and the staff is upfront with the kids about what position they plan on using them-which has cost them some recruits over the years.
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