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re: If UNC receives NCAA Death Penalty, will the ACC collapse like the the SWC?

Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

UVA is probably 3rd in conference influence.

If that were true, Virginia Tech wouldn't be in the ACC.
Posted by NbamaTiger90
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:49 pm to
I don't believe anyone will ever get the DP again. You would have conferences filing suit after suit for lost revenue.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:50 pm to
exactly

no death penalty because that hurts the other schools and the conference as well
Posted by dlc83
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:57 pm to
No question UVA has power within the conference. I put them at 3rd, which is pretty high.

The ACC was set to add Miami, BC and Syracuse when UVA stepped in and insisted that VT be added instead of Syracuse. The League agreed. The Virginia legislature threatened UVA with state funding unless VT was added to the conference.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:08 pm to
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No question UVA has power within the conference. I put them at 3rd, which is pretty high.

UVA has at worst the second most, and Duke really isn't a close third. They don't bring nearly as much to the table as UVA.
Posted by SECROCKS!
Member since Jun 2013
528 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:11 pm to
If raping kids doesn't get the death penalty nothing will.
Posted by Pavoloco83
Acworth Ga. too many damn dawgs
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:13 pm to
Nobody is ever getting the death penalty again. It does too much damage for too long a period to too many kids who had nothing to do with the problems that caused it.

Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58036 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

Not only did it kill SMU, but it became a zombie for the next 15 years.


If SMU wants to move forward they need to dump the vampire zombie June Jones. Dude is straight stealing from them at this point.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18150 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:23 pm to
No TV bans or death penalty. $$$$$$$$$

You will see vacations, bowl bans, scholarship reductions.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:29 pm to
The REC is modeled after UNC's running of the ACC. They will not get the death penalty.

Even if they did (which they absolutely won't), it wouldn't kill the ACC
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15737 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:34 pm to
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First, UNC has already been sanctioned by the NCAA (1 year bowl probation and loss of scholarships for 3 years). We are currently serving under these sanctions.



Well the NCAA did reopen the investigation because they think more people are willing to cooperate now
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:42 pm to
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If Bama didn't get it UNC won't even sniff it



To be fair, Logan Young took Bama's death penalty.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:58 pm to
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If that were true, Virginia Tech wouldn't be in the ACC.


you are mistaken

the VA legislature strong armed the University of Virginia into using their influence to get the ACC to bring in VA Tech with Miami.

If the Cavs did not have extra-ordinary influence, they would not have been able to demand that their in state rival be brought in.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29645 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 5:00 pm to
oops - I misread your post, looks like we agree
Posted by LSUNV
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 5:09 pm to
The Death Penalty will never be used again.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 6:01 pm to
i hope they get the death penalty and then have their accreditation pulled. frick unc
Posted by FourThinInches
Dallas
Member since Apr 2012
1302 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 6:37 pm to
NCAA better at least take their title away that they won with players taking the bogus classes. One of them has already come out to the press saying he took the no-show, easy A classes...
Posted by biggsc
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 7:17 pm to
Would anybody have a whole list of what UNCACH did?
Posted by randomways
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
12988 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 7:30 pm to
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They wont get the DP.


It'll be consensual and loving, with a single partner, missionary-style.


Wait...are we talking about the same DP?


Anyway, UNC will likely escape major sanctions. It certainly won't get the death penalty.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 7:34 pm to
The only reason Penn State got the "death penalty" is because of the nature of what was covered up.

You likely won't ever see again what we knew as the death penalty in previous years. And UNC will weather it without much issue IMO. Worst case scenario is they tie Roy Williams to it and he gets a show cause. Just ask UConn how a post-season ban worked for them recently.

ETA: And on the basketball end the ACC has recently gained Louisville, Syracuse, and will still have Duke. They're not going anywhere.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 7:36 pm
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