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re: Florida Will Win the East this Year
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:48 pm to roadGator
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:48 pm to roadGator
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Offense. We are still missing playmakers. Proven playmakers.
Yes, I agree with you. But I'm saying the talent is there. We have some pretty highly recruited backs and WRs on our roster.
Theres a reason Clemson fans are still pissed Demarcus Robinson ended up at UF.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:49 pm to roadGator
After last season, what does Muschamp need to do to appease the fans?
9 wins?
9 wins?
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:49 pm to boXerrumble
He's about it at WR though. We still don't have a TE. That UVA kids better be good
Posted on 7/21/14 at 9:58 pm to roadGator
I thought Fullwood was supposed to be good? I guess wee will see.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:01 pm to CBandits82
9 wins is ok with beating UG
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:01 pm to roadGator
RB
Kelvin Taylor
Matt Jones
Mack Brown
Adam Lane
Mark Herndon
WR
Alvin Bailey
Quinton Dunbar
Demarcus Robinson
Latroy Pittman
Ahmad Fulwood
Andre Debose
TE
Jack McGee
Clay Burton
Tevin Westbrook
TE is the biggest concern by far. Debose being back helps the WRs AND special teams.
Kelvin Taylor
Matt Jones
Mack Brown
Adam Lane
Mark Herndon
WR
Alvin Bailey
Quinton Dunbar
Demarcus Robinson
Latroy Pittman
Ahmad Fulwood
Andre Debose
TE
Jack McGee
Clay Burton
Tevin Westbrook
TE is the biggest concern by far. Debose being back helps the WRs AND special teams.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:02 pm to bigDgator
Unproven. Could be jerry rice. Could be average.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:10 pm to roadGator
Yeah, I am cautiously optimistic. Our offense has no reason to be as bad as it has been.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:18 pm to boXerrumble
Highly recruited does not always equal highly productive.
Florida's offense is not scaring anybody and the D will likely be good, but if they continue to be asked to win games it will wear them down.
Schedule is brutal.
Florida's offense is not scaring anybody and the D will likely be good, but if they continue to be asked to win games it will wear them down.
Schedule is brutal.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 10:21 pm to JesusQuintana
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Florida's offense is not scaring anybody
Last years offense. Agreed. No one knows what this year will look like. We don't need a top 20 offense to win. We need 50 the percentile.
The schedule is usually brutal. That's nothing new.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 7/22/14 at 1:55 am to cascadia
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Muschamp can't even coach a high school team. You're going to have to wait for a new coach before you're even a real competitor.
UM.... I don't believe in the guy, but in 2012 he had arguably the most impressive coaching run in america beating 4 teams in the final top 15-- no one beat more elite teams than Boom.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 2:00 am to CBandits82
9 wins only buys him another year. 2015 would then be a hot seat year where anything shy of winning the East would get him fired.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 3:00 am to boXerrumble
We have only been a powerhouse for four years. Hardly any time to be saying anything about us as a program. Last year I am not surprised we lost to Stanford, for I called it going in.
2 seasons ago losing to Stanford is the only thing you can talk crap about.
We've never brought in great recruits such as Florida so to be in a higher conversation while your players block each other is nice.
I honestly do not expect a championship season this season because I dislike Frost's play calling.
2 seasons ago losing to Stanford is the only thing you can talk crap about.
We've never brought in great recruits such as Florida so to be in a higher conversation while your players block each other is nice.
I honestly do not expect a championship season this season because I dislike Frost's play calling.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 6:36 am to TT9
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East is weak again, anything's possible. Whoever wins will get destroyed by the west in the seccg.
Riiiiiight. Every eam in the West is weaker this year than last. (Ole iss and Miss St. the exceptions, but neither is strong enough to win it all this year) There are three teams and possibly 4 in the East that can play with any of the teams in the West this year. (Ga., Fl., SouCar., and Mizzou, maybe)
Posted on 7/22/14 at 6:39 am to socraticsilence
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2015 would then be a hot seat year where anything shy of winning the East would get him fired
2015 will be easier. I know Georgia will be down in 2015...or should be down, depending on how our new players develop. South Carolina is always tough, and Mizzou has shown they belong, so it won't be a ckewalk....but a little easier.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 7:16 am to CBandits82
People need to stop looking at that 4-8 record as a predictor for Florida this year.
Last year, Florida lost their All-American return man, and a guy that was supposed to be a starter at WR, Andre Debose, in fall camp. Then, arguably their best and most consistent OL, Chaz Green, goes down for the year as well.
This is already an offense that wasn't expected to do more than be average.
Then you enter the season with your ALL-SEC Guard, Jon Halapio, playing with one arm because of a torn pectoral muscle, your starting RB Matt Jones can't play all Fall practice because of a viral infection that sidelines him for a month before the season. Your starting QB misses most of fall camp with appendicitis.
That is a nightmare scenario.
Then, your LT gets hurt in your first game and misses most of the Miami game (and eventually is gone for the season a few games later).
Then, your starting QB and your All-American DT get injured and lost for the season within a few days of each other.
The list gets worse, but I won't bore you any further. Suffice to say, it was epic and terrible.
The team that lined up at the end of the season was nothing even close to what it could have been, fully healthy, in August.
The team in 2013 is 100% healthy. The roster has more playing-ready personnel at every position. There seems to have been an upgrade on the offensive coaching staff. UF also has one of the most experienced QB's in the conference behind a healthy, veteran OL.
The defense has a veteran front, good LB's, and one of the most talented secondaries in the SEC. The special teams have an ALL-SEC punter, ALL SEC return man, and is one kicker short of being one of the best in the country.
Honestly, given all that, what's not to like? The only reason UF isn't the clear favorite in the east this year is because no one is sure exactly how much to blame Will Muschamp for last year's debacle. And that is made even harder by the fact that he was the SEC coach of the year in 2012.
No one knows for sure. We'll find our soon.
Last year, Florida lost their All-American return man, and a guy that was supposed to be a starter at WR, Andre Debose, in fall camp. Then, arguably their best and most consistent OL, Chaz Green, goes down for the year as well.
This is already an offense that wasn't expected to do more than be average.
Then you enter the season with your ALL-SEC Guard, Jon Halapio, playing with one arm because of a torn pectoral muscle, your starting RB Matt Jones can't play all Fall practice because of a viral infection that sidelines him for a month before the season. Your starting QB misses most of fall camp with appendicitis.
That is a nightmare scenario.
Then, your LT gets hurt in your first game and misses most of the Miami game (and eventually is gone for the season a few games later).
Then, your starting QB and your All-American DT get injured and lost for the season within a few days of each other.
The list gets worse, but I won't bore you any further. Suffice to say, it was epic and terrible.
The team that lined up at the end of the season was nothing even close to what it could have been, fully healthy, in August.
The team in 2013 is 100% healthy. The roster has more playing-ready personnel at every position. There seems to have been an upgrade on the offensive coaching staff. UF also has one of the most experienced QB's in the conference behind a healthy, veteran OL.
The defense has a veteran front, good LB's, and one of the most talented secondaries in the SEC. The special teams have an ALL-SEC punter, ALL SEC return man, and is one kicker short of being one of the best in the country.
Honestly, given all that, what's not to like? The only reason UF isn't the clear favorite in the east this year is because no one is sure exactly how much to blame Will Muschamp for last year's debacle. And that is made even harder by the fact that he was the SEC coach of the year in 2012.
No one knows for sure. We'll find our soon.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 7:17 am
Posted on 7/22/14 at 7:28 am to slayerxing
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UF also has one of the most experienced QB's in the conference
I agree. Forida went through the same thing georgia went through last season, and Missouri the year before that. But, in fairness, Driskell has not shown the ability to elevate his game yet. he is the big key to your offense. You REALLY need him to step it up this year.....and he might. When he went down last year you got a break. Even when he was playing, he was not really playing that well.....see Miami.
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no one is sure exactly how much to blame Will Muschamp for last year's debacle
Not too much. (Except his insitence on sticking with Driskell) You HAVE to blame the injuries. They are what did you in. If Driskell can play within his abilities and not try to crry the offense on his back you will be fine. If he continues to try to make things happen on his own....it could spell trouble. The talent is there...can he put it all together? that's the question in my mind.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 7:40 am to DawgsLife
I will say, that in the Miami game, UF had lost 4 of their starting OL. That is pretty crazy.
Even with that, Driskel completed over 60% of his passes for almost 300 yards. UF had 2 100 yard receivers. He also had a passing TD and rushing TD.
He had one REALLY bad play on an early INT.
Other than that, the second INT wasn't his fault, it was a blown route by the WR, and the 4th down conversion was a failure of coaching. That should have been an instant Time out.
He's not my favorite QB ever, but he got a lot of heat last season that was undeserved. And although people fell in love with Tyler Murphy early, he wasn't nearly as good as Driskel against the better teams on the schedule. In retrospect, Murphy got broken in against 3 of the worst teams in the league. Once he played better teams he fell apart.
Driskel, as a QB, was 4-2 against top 15 teams in 2012. That is pretty fricken good. He's also 12-3 as a starter which isn't bad either.
Even with that, Driskel completed over 60% of his passes for almost 300 yards. UF had 2 100 yard receivers. He also had a passing TD and rushing TD.
He had one REALLY bad play on an early INT.
Other than that, the second INT wasn't his fault, it was a blown route by the WR, and the 4th down conversion was a failure of coaching. That should have been an instant Time out.
He's not my favorite QB ever, but he got a lot of heat last season that was undeserved. And although people fell in love with Tyler Murphy early, he wasn't nearly as good as Driskel against the better teams on the schedule. In retrospect, Murphy got broken in against 3 of the worst teams in the league. Once he played better teams he fell apart.
Driskel, as a QB, was 4-2 against top 15 teams in 2012. That is pretty fricken good. He's also 12-3 as a starter which isn't bad either.
Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:09 am to slayerxing
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Even with that, Driskel completed over 60% of his passes for almost 300 yards. UF had 2 100 yard receivers. He also had a passing TD and rushing TD.
The talent is there. Where he hurts himself is when he tries to force thins. He knows his offense is subpar so he wants to do it all. He makes dumb throws when it counts and it hurts the team.....bad.
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He's not my favorite QB ever, but he got a lot of heat last season that was undeserved.
Possibly. You know Florida football better than me. Perhaps he comes back and has a great year. If he does, then Florida could make the cut for the final four.
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Driskel, as a QB, was 4-2 against top 15 teams in 2012. That is pretty fricken good. He's also 12-3 as a starter which isn't bad either.
I understand this, but really....couldn't yu chalk that umore to the defense, than to Driskell? As I said...you kow Florida football better than I do, and I am basing much of my impression of Driskell on what I saw of him i the Miami game. he just looked panicked. But again, I think I would, too, if 4 of my starting offensive linemen went down!
Posted on 7/22/14 at 8:28 am to DawgsLife
The defense was responsible for a lot of UF's success in 2012.
But Driskel had to make HUGE plays down the stretch to beat Texas A&M that year. He had a huge game in the red zone against South Carolina, that turned what could have been a close game into a rout.
He had bad games against LSU, UGA, and Louisville, but the defense and running game bailed him out of 1 of those.
He really had a clutch game, while playing injured on the road, against FSU.
And that was all during his first season as a starter.
It's hard to blame him for the Miami game. He made one, really bad play, and then his team made 4 other really bad plays that resulted in red zone turnovers. It was a perfect shite storm, and as the QB, he takes most of the blame, but it wasn't all on him.
The reason Murphy initially looked better in 2013 was because he had a better survival instinct. He would run when shite got bad, like it almost always did, and even he eventually got hurt. He also couldn't throw the ball nearly as well as Driskel.
Missouri fans probably won't remember this, but Murphy missed an easy wide open Trey Burton for a TD that would have made the entire first half that game very different had it been converted. Instead of being down three after the 2nd half KO return, UF would have been up 1. Totally different dynamic. And that is just one play out of hundreds last year.
Driskel may not be the best ever at Florida, but he's decent, and if he gets support from the rest of the offense, Florida will be dangerous running 100% out of the shotgun.
But Driskel had to make HUGE plays down the stretch to beat Texas A&M that year. He had a huge game in the red zone against South Carolina, that turned what could have been a close game into a rout.
He had bad games against LSU, UGA, and Louisville, but the defense and running game bailed him out of 1 of those.
He really had a clutch game, while playing injured on the road, against FSU.
And that was all during his first season as a starter.
It's hard to blame him for the Miami game. He made one, really bad play, and then his team made 4 other really bad plays that resulted in red zone turnovers. It was a perfect shite storm, and as the QB, he takes most of the blame, but it wasn't all on him.
The reason Murphy initially looked better in 2013 was because he had a better survival instinct. He would run when shite got bad, like it almost always did, and even he eventually got hurt. He also couldn't throw the ball nearly as well as Driskel.
Missouri fans probably won't remember this, but Murphy missed an easy wide open Trey Burton for a TD that would have made the entire first half that game very different had it been converted. Instead of being down three after the 2nd half KO return, UF would have been up 1. Totally different dynamic. And that is just one play out of hundreds last year.
Driskel may not be the best ever at Florida, but he's decent, and if he gets support from the rest of the offense, Florida will be dangerous running 100% out of the shotgun.
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