re: If Vandy wins, Ms State and Ole Miss only ones without a championship

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and how many of those claims are done based solely on that FWAA and without either the AP or Coaches/UPI as well?

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At least 4.

That's certainly an opinion of yours, sir.

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it's the majority opinion

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Do you have numbers to back this up? Because the only two fanbases I ever hear claiming those titles are bogus are LSU and State.

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Do you have numbers to back this up?

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I'm not talking about fanbases, because sadly most people throw integrity out the window if it means their school can claim a few extra titles. I'm talking about objective observers.

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Ethical? How about logical... 59 named greatest team of the century, named by multiple outlets that we are the NC and the NCAA recognizes us as NC.

60, multiple outlets name us NC, NCAA recognizes us as NC and the AP gives it to the a 8-2 team who lost to Purdue who finished 2-7 and then lost their rose bowl game, the final game of the year to finish 8-2. Get your head out of your obsessed arse

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If we make exceptions for you then we have to make exceptions for everybody. It's important to have standards and the standards could not be more clear: Until the advent of the BCS you could win an NC one of 2 ways. Finish #1 in the AP or Coaches/UPI. That's it. If you start making exceptions or letting other selectors in then the next thing you know the Little Cesear's employee poll or some absurd computer formula can start naming claimable National Championships and the whole thing loses it's prestige.

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the whole thing loses it's prestige.

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Do you think there was any prestige in the 60 NC giving it to that team instead of the southern team who deserved it more, but the north (AP) hated? A fricked up system is why the AP didnt give us the NC and you know that. We dont try and start threads about how many NC we won, but you do knowing that if a correct system were in place then we would have been NC in any modern system. If the NCAA regards a team as a NC then that is more than enough. If you want to argue you and use logic to back it up, then fine. For instance Bama claims a NC in the 40's after two losses and didnt even win the conference. Logic tells you that that is bullshite and the equivalent of Minnesota's AP NC in 1960. You've posted four pages in an obsessed OM thread arguing against what you know is common sense. The NCAA championships are legitimate because of how the system was back then. As I said before, if you dont think a team was worthy of a claim use logic to back it up. The AP's choice in 60 lacks logic and you know it.

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You can't truly mean the things you are saying right?

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That the AP and UPI are only legitimate selectors? This is not a new or controversial position...

Minnesota 8-2>>>Ole Miss 10-0



There, how did I do being a shitehead LSU fan?