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re: Why does University of Alabama have so many out of state students?
Posted on 6/21/14 at 8:52 am to Crimson G
Posted on 6/21/14 at 8:52 am to Crimson G
I don't think we're on the level of Texas or Florida (how could we be, that applicant pool is unreal), but we're definitively better Auburn and Bama academically. I'm not even trying to come off as a dick and not trying to create an argument, but you don't need to compare acceptance rates to know this. Acceptance rate is an extremely narrow stat that merely makes for good press. This is common knowledge. Those schools are certainly not bad and they certainly have their programs (AU engineering comes to mind, Bama law has come on strong recently depending on the ranking you look at), but, on the whole, Bama is not on our level or even very close right now.
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Posted on 6/21/14 at 9:15 am to MenloDawg
A true measure of acceptance rate would be the average ACT/SAT Score of those applicants that are not accepted. It would open a lot of eyes on how hard it is to get into a school.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 2:52 pm to MenloDawg
Honestly, among the 10+ pages of opinions and ridiculous argument, there are a few arguments that really make sense.
1) Yes, the Hope Scholarship in Georgia/Top 10% in Texas rules do play a factor. Does it help the University? Hell Yeah! Those private schools in Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston that produce smart kids from affluent families are now bringing their talents and pocket books to Tuscaloosa? Come on the hell down.
2) Football has something do to with it--albeit, it's probably just the opening sales pitch. Yeah, we kick arse at the sport that dominates popularity in Texas, Georgia, and Tennessee. Who doesn't want to associate themselves with a winner? However, no idiot is gonna go JUST because the football team is good. They probably watch the games, see the beautiful girls, great tailgating, shots of the humongous fraternity and sorority houses, as well as the rest of campus and think, "shite, that looks nice too!" Then the parents get on computers, see that UA is well within the top-100 on USNWR, see their business, law, and nursing rankings, and actually take the school into consideration.
3) If you were an OOS student like me, again, I reiterate how important it was that the school was diverse in its student body. I loved the fact I wasn't going to walk into Hoover High School's 13th grade, freshman year. My pledge class had around 10 kids from Atlanta, 10 from Nashville, 2 from Charlotte, and a handful from Dallas and Houston. It was, and is, still fricking awesome.
For the record, I think that will be the hardest thing LSU will have to overcome; Louisiana residents LOVE Louisiana, and LSU in particular, more than any other state in the country. State pride is tremendous down there. I knew a girl from BR in college who was almost shunned by her family for wanting to "get out of Louisiana" for 4 whole years and go to Alabama. That's retarded. Alabama and Ole Miss don't care if you're from the North Pole.
4) Having a diverse network matters!
I'm sorry, but I love the fact that when Alabama plays these neutral site games, the local alumni chapter of Atlanta & Dallas have literally thousands of members setting up shop for the tailgate parties and weekend events. Outside of football, I was interviewed by a guy in Charlotte for a job, who got his MBA at Alabama in the late 1990's--it's an important connection to have, and, can be the deciding point in perhaps getting a job. If two guys are the same on paper, and one went to your Alma Mater, who the hell are you gonna pick?
1) Yes, the Hope Scholarship in Georgia/Top 10% in Texas rules do play a factor. Does it help the University? Hell Yeah! Those private schools in Atlanta, Dallas, and Houston that produce smart kids from affluent families are now bringing their talents and pocket books to Tuscaloosa? Come on the hell down.
2) Football has something do to with it--albeit, it's probably just the opening sales pitch. Yeah, we kick arse at the sport that dominates popularity in Texas, Georgia, and Tennessee. Who doesn't want to associate themselves with a winner? However, no idiot is gonna go JUST because the football team is good. They probably watch the games, see the beautiful girls, great tailgating, shots of the humongous fraternity and sorority houses, as well as the rest of campus and think, "shite, that looks nice too!" Then the parents get on computers, see that UA is well within the top-100 on USNWR, see their business, law, and nursing rankings, and actually take the school into consideration.
3) If you were an OOS student like me, again, I reiterate how important it was that the school was diverse in its student body. I loved the fact I wasn't going to walk into Hoover High School's 13th grade, freshman year. My pledge class had around 10 kids from Atlanta, 10 from Nashville, 2 from Charlotte, and a handful from Dallas and Houston. It was, and is, still fricking awesome.
For the record, I think that will be the hardest thing LSU will have to overcome; Louisiana residents LOVE Louisiana, and LSU in particular, more than any other state in the country. State pride is tremendous down there. I knew a girl from BR in college who was almost shunned by her family for wanting to "get out of Louisiana" for 4 whole years and go to Alabama. That's retarded. Alabama and Ole Miss don't care if you're from the North Pole.
4) Having a diverse network matters!
I'm sorry, but I love the fact that when Alabama plays these neutral site games, the local alumni chapter of Atlanta & Dallas have literally thousands of members setting up shop for the tailgate parties and weekend events. Outside of football, I was interviewed by a guy in Charlotte for a job, who got his MBA at Alabama in the late 1990's--it's an important connection to have, and, can be the deciding point in perhaps getting a job. If two guys are the same on paper, and one went to your Alma Mater, who the hell are you gonna pick?
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