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Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:32 pm to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:32 pm to Crowknowsbest
I think I understand what you mean.
The next time I run the numbers, I'll look into that as well.
The next time I run the numbers, I'll look into that as well.
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:34 pm to deeprig9
Crow,
aside from recruiting, do you see any issues with guys not getting coached up?
aside from recruiting, do you see any issues with guys not getting coached up?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:37 pm to deeprig9
I've never done any research on this, but I'd guess they don't sign many more skill position players than we do. Basically, the amount you'd keep on a roster. They might sign a few more but not many.
I'd guess the number of linemen they sign is significantly higher than UGA. In turn, they likely process more linemen too, as some of them inevitably don't work out. The amount of actual scholarship spots for linemen probably is pretty similar.
I'd guess the number of linemen they sign is significantly higher than UGA. In turn, they likely process more linemen too, as some of them inevitably don't work out. The amount of actual scholarship spots for linemen probably is pretty similar.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:38 pm to deeprig9
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Crow,
aside from recruiting, do you see any issues with guys not getting coached up?
I see what looks to be a conditioning issue more than anything. Our guys look fat and not able to move very well.
Other teams' OL are fat too, but not in a way that DGD appropriately describes as a "jello bowl" way.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:49 pm to Crowknowsbest
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The amount of actual scholarship spots for linemen probably is pretty similar.
That part is hard to research because they don't make it easy for you at AL.com
They have 200 people on the roster and you know only 85 are scholarship, but they don't say which ones.
I enjoyed my Bama Board access for months, I could go over there and ask a quick tech question and get great answers but they decided I wasn't enough of a contributor and bounced me.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:50 pm to deeprig9
Alabama has a completely different scholarship policy than us, they reward them yearly to current players. Not developing, well then see you later no scholly.
Hyatt was never coming to us, the USC kid I think will flip before the year is over, unless he has some ties to Cali. I just wish we would go after the big nasty mofo's instead of grabbing these athletic lineman. Friend ain't going nowhere as long as Pruitt is there.
Hyatt was never coming to us, the USC kid I think will flip before the year is over, unless he has some ties to Cali. I just wish we would go after the big nasty mofo's instead of grabbing these athletic lineman. Friend ain't going nowhere as long as Pruitt is there.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:54 pm to deeprig9
The thing is the UA fans don't even know. Saban is very secretive about how their numbers work. IIRC they've had several highly rated guys (only legacies that I know of) who everybody thought were on scholly that were actually paying their own way. They don't even announce when a walk-on is awarded a scholarship, if that even ever happens with their numbers.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 9:57 pm to Crowknowsbest
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conditioning issue with the linemen
I'm hoping that the hire of the new strength coach will remedy this. The guy played o-line in college and the pros and has a solid reputation in the s&c community.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:12 pm to NytroBud
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NytroBud Oline Recruiting Discussion When the top 4 O.line man in the state go else where,there is cause for concern in my opinion.
Ditto. Why wouldn't O-linemen want to stay home and block for arguably the best backfield in college football? Part of it has to do with institutional payola across the state line to the west.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 10:43 pm to Cobb Dawg
I know that recruiting is the OP theme but UGA has alot of offensive and defensive linemen in the NFL.
I don't feel like I've ever seen an NFL OL/DL at UGA.
I blame Garner for the DL under performing over the years.
Who do I blame for the OL?
I don't feel like I've ever seen an NFL OL/DL at UGA.
I blame Garner for the DL under performing over the years.
Who do I blame for the OL?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:36 pm to Crowknowsbest
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The thing is the UA fans don't even know. Saban is very secretive about how their numbers work. IIRC they've had several highly rated guys (only legacies that I know of) who everybody thought were on scholly that were actually paying their own way. They don't even announce when a walk-on is awarded a scholarship, if that even ever happens with their numbers.
Yeah, and the Bryant scholarship is a BS advantage as well. Honestly, I think their scholarship numbers are one big shell game. I just assume it is like playing in the commodities market. You just keep buying and selling without being stuck with the actually product. If the balls ever dropped in Tuscaloosa, I am guessing there would be more than 85 on the floor.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 12:57 pm to deeprig9
I think our S&C program has shifted its focus as a defense and as a team. Pruitt was brought in for more reasons then just to coach up a defense, he is bringing an alabamaish mentality to uga. Right now Bama is the top program in the country, and mark Richt figured that the best way to beat them is to match some things they do, and hopefully excel at them. That's why we are seeing the influx of new non-position coaches from power house high school programs around the state.
But my main point is the entire team is trying to get leaner and meaner.
But my main point is the entire team is trying to get leaner and meaner.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 2:36 pm to Casper the Dawg
Friend is the shittiest recruiter in years. You can say all you want about Ball but he gets optimal results from walkons/2 stars/3 stars/4 stars.
WF is a fricking below average coach to boot. Goddamn Theus can't even sniff legitimate consideration at LT with 3 starters gone.
WF is a fricking below average coach to boot. Goddamn Theus can't even sniff legitimate consideration at LT with 3 starters gone.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 3:07 pm to Kimsey
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WF is the shittiest recruiter in years.
I can get down with this.
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Theus can't even sniff legitimate consideration at LT with 3 starters gone.
Everything that I've read is that Theus has performed pretty well at LT. The only thing that is keeping him from legitimately locking down the position is the lack of performance at LG.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 3:11 pm to Sanford&MunSon
Lakatos was worse.
This is correct. If Kublanow could get it together we might be in business.
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Everything that I've read is that Theus has performed pretty well at LT. The only thing that is keeping him from legitimately locking down the position is the lack of performance at LG.
This is correct. If Kublanow could get it together we might be in business.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 4:09 pm to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 4/26/14 at 12:44 am to DawgRff
I think pruitt will school his buddy on how to reel in the fish. Might be small fish, but any is better than none.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 5:31 am to Casper the Dawg
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I think Pruitt will school his buddy
I don't think it works like that. Recruiting seems to be one of those skills that you either have or you don't.
Posted on 4/26/14 at 5:33 pm to Sanford&MunSon
well apparently, it is all about the bagmen and how little work a school will let you get away with in the end.
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