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re: Which Florida football players are you most excited about this year?
Posted on 5/3/14 at 4:32 am to GatorsGonnaGata
Posted on 5/3/14 at 4:32 am to GatorsGonnaGata
Get ready. If our OL doesn't suffer injuries early on then we have good chance to win it all and I mean it. Our defense is capable of keeping us in any game and I strongly feel Driskel is undervalued amongst a lot of Gator fans who blame QBs for woes.
We just went 11-1 in 2012 for crying out loud and our offense will be improved.
We just went 11-1 in 2012 for crying out loud and our offense will be improved.
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Posted on 5/3/14 at 2:24 pm to reel_gator8
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We just went 11-1 in 2012 for crying out loud and our offense will be improved.
This is where I absolutely refuse to believe it until I see it. I bought in 100% completely to the people telling me that our offense could only get better in 2013 and it was insufferable.
Yes, we had a ton of injuries, but Driskel made terrible decisions against Louisville & Miami and looked average against Toledo before he even got injured. Now he has had to take a year off from practicing and I'm supposed to believe he learns the entire new system before the season starts and he'll be better than he ever has been before? Ehh... I really hope so, but I'm not holding my breath.
I watched the Orange and Blue debut, Driskel and the receivers (because it's on them too) still can't connect on the deep pass and if we can't stretch the field vertically.... well...
This post was edited on 5/3/14 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 5/3/14 at 6:19 pm to GatorsGonnaGata
Believe it or not JD actually had a 70% completion percentage up until he was injured last year.
Posted on 5/3/14 at 11:20 pm to GatorsGonnaGata
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This is where I absolutely refuse to believe it until I see it. I bought in 100% completely to the people telling me that our offense could only get better in 2013 and it was insufferable.
Yes, we had a ton of injuries, but Driskel made terrible decisions against Louisville & Miami and looked average against Toledo before he even got injured. Now he has had to take a year off from practicing and I'm supposed to believe he learns the entire new system before the season starts and he'll be better than he ever has been before? Ehh... I really hope so, but I'm not holding my breath.
I watched the Orange and Blue debut, Driskel and the receivers (because it's on them too) still can't connect on the deep pass and if we can't stretch the field vertically.... well...
Do you REALLY watch games? I mean really study them? Lets talk facts...in 2012 Driskel for all intents purposes was a freshman who receive very limited snaps in 2011 when Brantley got hurt..did you see the huge running play Driskel got in that Bama game after JB got hurt? Of course JD was not ready to play and especially against an NFL defense like Bamas that year...anyway...JD got injured and then Brissett played with little effect also....then during spring/summer Driskel and Brissett battled for starting position right down to the wire...splitting reps...Jeff won out and remember he went to Texas A&M with our defense beat them...his runs and passing helped us and trust me A&M was wanting that game BADLY because it was their first ever game as SEC member and ESPN gameday showed up. Then gameday followed us to Knoxvegas where Driskel played a great game and was named SEC offensive player of the week afterwards...UGA wasn't entirely his fault that year...we put the ball on the ground too much and some of it was other players fault. Now UL was horrible game...but remember Bama got beat badlky by Utah in Sugar Bowl after we won the SECCG in 2008...it happens. Forward to the Univ of New Jawsey @ Coral Gables...where Driskel threw for 297 yds because we had NO run game to speak of....yes he threw picks...one that I know for a fact was the WRS fault...we also had backup RB put ball on the ground.
So I am disputing what you think you've seen...did you watch the Under Armour AA game in St Petersburg? Driskel was a highly sought after qb in high school...he was too pumpedin the game and threw a pass that showed tremendous arm strength but overshot his target....but did you see his huge run? Maybe you want to Google that to see his wheels.
Injuries? Yeah....OL going down and starting RB out early on. Driskel is now r/s junior and in case you don't realize it...he spent a lot of time studying film and learning passing skills while injured....sorry you have no confidence in him...get back with me in October....if we beat Bama (which I think we have a good shot of doing) the bandwagon may get filled fast...but I will be driving it and will let you on
Posted on 5/4/14 at 8:10 am to reel_gator8
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We just went 11-1 in 2012 for crying out loud and our offense will be improved.
We were as Unlucky last year as were Lucky the year before...
Posted on 5/4/14 at 8:20 am to KajunGator
Lol you said so much to basically say: "I disagree." Sorry that I don't agree and yes, I watched games and I don't think Driskel has looked like a #1 overall ranked QB, sorry. Almost 70% completion rate is fantastic, but staring down receivers , holding on the ball too long and questionable decisions, especially in the Louisville game also need to be considered. If Driskel does fantastic I'll come back and eat crow this year like you're asking. But if he looks average or worse this year are you going to come back and do the same or are you going to come back and make excuses?
Posted on 5/5/14 at 3:10 am to GatorsGonnaGata
I'll just come back and make excuses
One thing I do know: these college students bust their butts for us fans and I do not like seeing those fans being critical of them trying their best for our school. Driskel isn't out committing date rapes, stealing soda at Burger King shooting BB gun in a dorm battle or shoplifting crab legs. Lets be proud of our players....they want to win as badly as we do.
One thing I do know: these college students bust their butts for us fans and I do not like seeing those fans being critical of them trying their best for our school. Driskel isn't out committing date rapes, stealing soda at Burger King shooting BB gun in a dorm battle or shoplifting crab legs. Lets be proud of our players....they want to win as badly as we do.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 7:41 am to reel_gator8
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I'll just come back and make excuses
Dang it
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One thing I do know: these college students bust their butts for us fans and I do not like seeing those fans being critical of them trying their best for our school. Driskel isn't out committing date rapes, stealing soda at Burger King shooting BB gun in a dorm battle or shoplifting crab legs. Lets be proud of our players....they want to win as badly as we do.
There's nothing more that I would like than for our star players to succeed. I'm from Ocala, I knew Brantley and I feel terrible about what the guy went through, but I sure hope Roper is the guy to turn Driskel into the best he can possibly be.
This post was edited on 5/5/14 at 7:42 am
Posted on 5/5/14 at 8:18 am to reel_gator8
Driskel just does not make good decisions on a consistent basis. He holds on to the ball too long. And when he isn't sacked in those cases (when he should just throw it away or take off for as many yards as he can get) he fumbles or throws dangerous passes.
The Miami game was a microcosm of his career. Periods of great athletic prowess where he makes big plays followed by boneheaded decisions, mixed in with missing key passes in critical situations. That loss wasn't all on him, but those 297 yards mask a bigger issue: UF typically did worse in games the more yards Driskel had. That is never a good sign. Of the 5 best games in his career from a passing yards standpoint, UF lost 3 of them. The two wins were against UK and UT, who went a combined 7-17 that year and UT had a historically bad defense.
The point is, UF is clearly a better team (or was with the old coaching staff) the less Driskel threw the ball. Hopefully that will change with the new offensive coaches, and hopefully the players around him will play better as well, but it's hard to have a lot of faith given all the information we have.
The Miami game was a microcosm of his career. Periods of great athletic prowess where he makes big plays followed by boneheaded decisions, mixed in with missing key passes in critical situations. That loss wasn't all on him, but those 297 yards mask a bigger issue: UF typically did worse in games the more yards Driskel had. That is never a good sign. Of the 5 best games in his career from a passing yards standpoint, UF lost 3 of them. The two wins were against UK and UT, who went a combined 7-17 that year and UT had a historically bad defense.
The point is, UF is clearly a better team (or was with the old coaching staff) the less Driskel threw the ball. Hopefully that will change with the new offensive coaches, and hopefully the players around him will play better as well, but it's hard to have a lot of faith given all the information we have.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 9:31 am to slayerxing
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That loss wasn't all on him, but those 297 yards mask a bigger issue: UF typically did worse in games the more yards Driskel had. That is never a good sign. Of the 5 best games in his career from a passing yards standpoint, UF lost 3 of them. The two wins were against UK and UT, who went a combined 7-17 that year and UT had a historically bad defense.
You just proved my point about how important the run game is vs passing...in general terms. In the Univ of NJ @ Coral Gables game...if you recall...Jones didn't play and we had Brown carry the mail. Our run game wasn't clicking at all and that's exactly why Driskel had to throw more often AND if you look closely at the replays you will (or should) see a key mistake by WR that led to one pick. WRS on curls should come back to the ball slightly (when pass is long throw on perimeter) to avoid DBs from under cutting them and ours didn't. Easy to blame QB....who was basically a true soph that year...not a junior since he hadn't redshirted.
I hope and pray that we r/s our true frosh hotshot Grier so he can progress....we cant expect to win much with true frosh QB. The clamour for another QB will die down quickly once we enjoy success this year with Driskel, as most fans have knee jerk reactions.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 10:02 am to reel_gator8
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as most fans have knee jerk reactions.
This is exactly why I stopped reading Swamp Gas. Every single criticism of the way the team was coached or performed in ANY shape or form would cause the same 5 people to claim you're a knee jerk fan with entitled expectations. I'm so over it
This post was edited on 5/5/14 at 10:03 am
Posted on 5/5/14 at 2:45 pm to reel_gator8
I don't blame him for the bad route on the 2nd INT. The first one was inexcusable though.
But Look at Miami that game.... Running game isn't everything.
They couldn't run the ball AT ALL.
Yet their QB made winning plays when they had the opportunities early in the game.
Florida did have 122 yards rushing to Miami's 50. That should be a win almost every time.
it's not all on Driskel, but you have to wonder about the past and how it will effect this season.
But Look at Miami that game.... Running game isn't everything.
They couldn't run the ball AT ALL.
Yet their QB made winning plays when they had the opportunities early in the game.
Florida did have 122 yards rushing to Miami's 50. That should be a win almost every time.
it's not all on Driskel, but you have to wonder about the past and how it will effect this season.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 2:46 pm to GatorsGonnaGata
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This is exactly why I stopped reading Swamp Gas. Every single criticism of the way the team was coached or performed in ANY shape or form would cause the same 5 people to claim you're a knee jerk fan with entitled expectations. I'm so over it
yeah it's so annoying. My feelings on Driskel aren't knee jerk, they're based on 14 games of watching him play. I didn't just magically come to this conclusion all of a sudden.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 3:34 pm to slayerxing
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Florida did have 122 yards rushing to Miami's 50. That should be a win almost every time.
Yes it would be...except that we had 5 turnovers and that trumps rushing yds in that case. Our defense (after 1st qt) held them very well...but UMs rush defense was stout early in the season).
We can have our opinions and if some say tomay toe, some will say tomoto. The proof is in the pudding and we have something to look forward to in late August.
Posted on 5/6/14 at 11:51 am to reel_gator8
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We can have our opinions and if some say tomay toe, some will say tomoto. The proof is in the pudding and we have something to look forward to in late August.
Yep and I hope whichever side is wrong will own up to it. If I'm wrong I'll be here eating crow (and happily, cause that means we're winning
)Posted on 5/6/14 at 2:33 pm to GatorsGonnaGata
Here is what I have to say about Driskel. I don't think he has ever been coached properly to read zone coverage's and the coaching staff has never used his running ability as a weapon outside of the Vandy game and that bootleg in the TAMU game.
For instance if you watch the game film and the rare occasions when we go 3,4,and 5 wide. He always gets the ball to the open man (whether the receiver catches it or not is another story) and he just looks comfortable. Now when we go jumbo set and only send out one receiver or 2. He freezes and holds onto the ball to long and gets sacked.
Nobody respects his running ability from under center and quite frankly i think the coaches have told him to always try to make the throw and don't run. Look at how many times in 2012 he was "sacked" running out of bounds looking to make the throw.
From what I read he is gonna be a "2 reads and a take off quarterback". If he lights it up on the run were gonna see some mighty nice play action bombs this year.
Also from what I have read about Roper is that his offenses have the respect that defense will always start cover 3 on you. His philosophy is zone run until the defense shifts out of it and then that's when the big play happens. The dude has just got a great offensive football IQ. I have read that he has said "Always take what the defense gives you and eventually they will give you the game" and btw Muschamps defense aint gonna give the other team shite.
Operation forget 2013 is underway fellas.
For instance if you watch the game film and the rare occasions when we go 3,4,and 5 wide. He always gets the ball to the open man (whether the receiver catches it or not is another story) and he just looks comfortable. Now when we go jumbo set and only send out one receiver or 2. He freezes and holds onto the ball to long and gets sacked.
Nobody respects his running ability from under center and quite frankly i think the coaches have told him to always try to make the throw and don't run. Look at how many times in 2012 he was "sacked" running out of bounds looking to make the throw.
From what I read he is gonna be a "2 reads and a take off quarterback". If he lights it up on the run were gonna see some mighty nice play action bombs this year.
Also from what I have read about Roper is that his offenses have the respect that defense will always start cover 3 on you. His philosophy is zone run until the defense shifts out of it and then that's when the big play happens. The dude has just got a great offensive football IQ. I have read that he has said "Always take what the defense gives you and eventually they will give you the game" and btw Muschamps defense aint gonna give the other team shite.
Operation forget 2013 is underway fellas.
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:22 pm to olemc999
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For instance if you watch the game film and the rare occasions when we go 3,4,and 5 wide. He always gets the ball to the open man (whether the receiver catches it or not is another story) and he just looks comfortable. Now when we go jumbo set and only send out one receiver or 2. He freezes and holds onto the ball to long and gets sacked.
He's a spread quarterback, you put him in the spread and of course he's going to be comfortable. You can't go four years of HS Ball playing one offense, specializing in that offense and having the build for that offense then shift to a team that can't run, has young receivers and isn't fitted for you.
It'd be like trying to play a big, rumbling quarterback in a read-option heavy run spread. It just ain't gonna work if he's not athletic.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 2:12 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Jeff needs to be put in an offense that gets the ball out of his hand quickly. The longer he holds onto the ball and tries to make something happen through the air, the more mistakes he makes. When you see him start patting the ball, bad things happen. This offense is the closest thing to the best "fit" for Jeff. Hope he takes advantage of his opportunity.
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:00 pm to gatordmb89
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Jeff needs to be put in an offense that gets the ball out of his hand quickly. The longer he holds onto the ball and tries to make something happen through the air, the more mistakes he makes. When you see him start patting the ball, bad things happen. This offense is the closest thing to the best "fit" for Jeff. Hope he takes advantage of his opportunity.
I've defended Jeff for a while because he was clearly just not comfortable in a drop-back offense.
You add the fact:
Zero running game.
Zero playermakers at Wide Receiver.
Terrible Offensive Line.
Gameplan not fitted to personnel.
There is no way any quarterback with any skillset could have shone in that situation.
I hope he proves people wrong because the way our fanbase treated him was really fricked up last year. Especially when a lot of it was out of his control and coach direction. (Telling him not to scramble, to emphasize the pass.)
Posted on 5/16/14 at 5:51 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
Driskel has never had much of a chance to get in much of a rhythm either. He was thrown to the wolves early, when Brantley went down. And, as I recall, he got injured that same game (end of the Bama game) and split reps most of the rest of the season with Bressett so he has never really had a solid outing until 2012 where we went 11-1. Every time he progresses a step forward...something pulls him 2 steps back.
This post was edited on 5/16/14 at 5:53 pm
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