re: Can Florida be the suprise team in the SEC this year?

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UF could win 7-8 next year and the offense look like crap, and it would probably feel the same as going 4-8

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I've been a big critic of Muschamp but the thing is -- I don't mind losing that much as long as we look competent. Losing always sucks, but it's the way our team lost. We looked sloppy, unmotivated and somehow managed to play with a chip on the shoulder in spite of sucking.

And please, please, please: Stop using injuries as an excuse. Our cheerleaders could have taken a banged up Georgia Southern team at home with a competent unit.

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Losing Driskel and Easley was no joke. Also both starting tackles. I'm a WM supporter, but I can be a critic as well, the injuries last yr were ridiculous.

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Georgia Southern lost their top two running backs while simultaneously being a running team. They had less scholarship players, almost as many injuries and were playing in our house.

It's just not a tangible defense. You can make that argument, for, perhaps, the rest of the schedule, but losing to GSU should be as cut and dry as anything in football.

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Georgia Southern lost their top two running backs while simultaneously being a running team. They had less scholarship players, almost as many injuries and were playing in our house.

It's just not a tangible defense. You can make that argument, for, perhaps, the rest of the schedule, but losing to GSU should be as cut and dry as anything in football.

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Lets not let facts get in the way...but you better look at the roster and what happened when we played GSU.

We had no LBers for the most part...having a last starter injured during game...Morrison was out...we started a true inexperienced frosh LB(Davis) and a freaking walk on to hold up against a running team. Look at the tape of the girls school game...I watched very closely at our defense and we did get a couple of players back, but still woefully think in depth..if anyone remembers the game...we actually outplayed those $^%#&^ for the first qt...but I watched as we had to keep almost the entire starting 11 on the field way too long and of course our offense was overwhelmed and we collapsed.

126 games were missed during the year because of players injuries. Third string qb playing at end of season. What would Saban have done with an inexperienced frosh 3rd string qb? Without 3 OL starters? Come on. We lost...move on. Muschamp and staff have done a great job recruiting and right now I can tell you the SEC is scared to death of us. We will not be fielding a 4-8 team in 2014.

Our very intelligent AD Foley knew what happened..he could have gone the easy way and fired Muschamp...well, why didn't he? And please don't pull the crap about him being hardheaded...that's ignorant. Foley has created a program second to none. I trust his judgment over any keyboard jockey.

We can bash and poison the air or support the coaches. Think about it. Such a negative environment we live in. NO ONE hates losing more than I do. Muschamp deserves this year to show 2013 was the result of a lot of things he couldn't control and the fault of some of his staff...which lies at his feet.

From 2011 to 2012 I have never seen a team transformed from such a soft bunch to a hard nose group like ours. Our defense became nasty as cutthroat reptiles and our offense...while not exciting...managed to be bullish and produce 11 wins.

I fully expect everyone to be very surprised at the outcome of Florida 2014. We have an OC with the right plan and Driskel has aged and matured, just remember he is only a junior....a few very good WRs are sophs and have learned the playbooks and know what to expect in SEC wars....coupled with two seniors and others...look out. Is it late August yet?

2013 is over...get over it and maybe enjoy the season we have ahead of us...of course I fully expect the chatter after a 10-11 win season is that it was because of our OC and not the HC.

I''ll get over it when Muschamp is fired or rights the ship and not a damn second before it.

Everyone knows that, which is why I laughed. Simmer down buddy.

As I said above, losing to Ga. Southern is inexcusable. However, I do believe if JD and Easley are healthy the entire season, we aren't even talking about how shitty last yr was. We weren't a 10 win TM, nor were we a 4 win TM. Would have made a bowl for certain though.

I never want to see UF fail, but if UF won say 8ish last yr, Pease is back and UF is still doing the same bullshite on offense. At least WM is going out swinging with an OC that will actually adapt to his QB.

I honestly think UF wouldf have beaten UGA last year if not for the numerous injuries...why? I knew UGA would suffer from the exodus of defensive players from the 2012 class...although they didnt play as well as they should have. On top of that you lost WR after WR in 2013.

This year? We will beat UGA...Muschamp needs to do that and I think we will...the complete imploding from injuries will not happen again. If we dont beat UGA I will not be happy happy.

Agree. What a terrible year of football.

I'm assuming he thinks FSU & Alabama are acceptable losses, but I don't know why everyone thinks they are unbeatable juggernauts.... and a very stacked Georgia team that has a brand new DC in Pruitt is not an acceptable loss? (Sorry not trying to complement Georgia, but lets be real with ourselves and hopefully the Georgia fans here can show some class/respect too)

Or what about the head ball coach and Dylan Thompson led South Carolina? That should be acceptable, too. Shoot, since we're discussing difficult games... what about Mauk led Mizzou who pretty much tied FSU for most points scored against a Muschamp coached Florida defense?

Believe me when I say I expect Muschamp to be winning 10+ games in his fourth year and think he should be fired if he doesn't. But I have almost 0 hope of us winning 10+ games and it's going to be a repeat of the 2012 year, IMO, if we do. We're going to play tough, grind it out games and scrape by with 3-7 point wins. Which would be fantastic!

I believe that a lot of the people I have been reading are right... that we will be an average team this year and go 7-5/8-5/etc. and Foley will consider it an improvement/rebuilding year and Muschamp will return in 2015.

Some of you are putting so much damn faith in Roper it's unbelievable. We are on our 3rd OC in four years and Roper has been tied with an offensive minded HC for most of his (if not whole?) career. He hasn't proven anything to the CFB world because of this and that's almost certainly why he jumped at the chance to try and rectify this dumpster fire of an offense: so he could prove himself. I respect the guy's ambition, but I don't expect we're going to be tearing up any scoreboards unless we do it against the bottom of the barrel teams on our schedule, like Eastern Kentucky.

But let me play devil's advocate here and say Roper somehow improves the Gator's offense dramatically. Lets say he turns it into a top 50 offense (instead of it being ranked 110+). I believe the only reason Roper came here was to make a name for himself by fixing this offense. What do we do if he succeeds and jumps to a HC position somewhere else almost immediately? Do we have to wait another 3-4 years for Muschamp to hire the right OC? Should we fire Muschamp and promote Roper (not realistic, but throwing it out there)?

Sorry for the long rant and no flaming intended to anyone in particular. Just want to liven up this board with some discussion.